Survey of Alberta Farmers on the Market Choice

[charliep]

A note to highlight and provide a link to the Ipso Reid survey on Alberta farmers opinion on wheat/barley marketing. The survey was commissioned by the Alberta government.

http://www.gov.ab.ca/acn/200311/15453.html

[Everest]

I just read through the entire survey results. It is nice to see that the Government of Alberta thinks enough of their tax-payers and farmers to publish the results of their research in full for all to see. It helps to understand and appreciate why they promote the policy they do. The survey shows that they are in sync with the thinking of Alberta farmers.

Now wouldn't it be wonderful if the CWB respected farmers and would do the same? So here's a challenge.

CWB directors and management.....Will you publish the complete results CWB surveying of producers' thinking with regard to marketing choice, and will you be guided in your policies and actions by what producers indicate they want?

[boone]

Everest, did you intentionaly place an Oxy-moron in each paragraph?

[henbent]

Hey Boone, don't confuse the boy, he might hold his breath, turn Purple and implode!! Nice to hear from you again!

[boone]

Hey henbent
after watching our favourite marketer strike out last October we all could suffer a purple implosion, go easy we don't have all the answers and neither does anyone else, nice to be back.

[dnach]

It is about time the silent majority is put out to pasture. This is finally a real survey on real farmers, not hobby famers or false permit book holders.
I wish the best of luck to Alberta farmers, and when a dual marketing system does work for you, maybe ten years from now the Sask. Gov't will do the same.
The gloves are off henbent and co.

[henbent]

dnach, The proposal as I understand it to date, is phoney. It's just Ralph's way of trying to deflect the heat. Let me list the ways, high energy prices, high insurance rates (frozen at current level), cow guys in trouble, value added in trouble (ie. AB Oats),forestry issue going no where, gay and les marriage issue, hunters not hunting because they are scared to eat the meat, gun register protest a joke, charge the poor to flop on the floor. Turf the RCMP, get Prov police back again, visit my friend Dick the Vice President he'll help. Let's bash the CWB, maybe I can get re-elected using that scam, or a pyramid scheme. Buy buffalo, elk, fallow deer, ostrich, emu, goats, tiny horses, donkeys, hedgehogs, chinchillas, we can all make money. Domestic violence is now a priority, lets clamp down, tighten up, prosecute, throw them in jail and if all else fails, lets name call. The medical mafia is poised to take all the money. There is NO MONEY for education or public infastructure. Teachers are bad cause they don't vote PC. Lets steal more from the seniors. Ralph's world has lots of AB Advantages. Give me a break, market choice, however, will be a screaming success!!! PHewwwww

[dnach]

henbent, I could care less about most of the jumble you just babled about. Why is the cwb and it's dye hard supporters so afraid to try a dual marketing system? If it proves to fail then bash it all you want, but why not try? The only crop on our farm we will not make money on again is high protien HRSW. And all indications are the cwb has very little sales for high protien HRSW. The cwb might not even take 100% of this years production! I, and many others just want a system where one can price and move any quantity of our production when we need to or have to. This system works well for feed barley, why can't it work for HRSW? As a matter of fact, I sold all our barley through the board this year, high protien, becuase i felt for the first time in 10 years, that the cwb would give me a better return than the open market. The point is at least I have a choice.

[henbent]

dnach, I suspect that if we give up the single desk advantage, (there is strength in working together)it will be gone, just like the Crow. I don't trust Ralph and his crew, if they are for it, then I am agin it!!

[henbent]

Henbent: Your my coice for Premier of Saskatchwan.

Oh. by the way I have a friend in Sask. his insurance for his car is $300 a year more than mine and we have comparable histories.

Go figure. Hellbent for failer.

[henbent]

03 Nov 12 22:18 Is your name R A L P H?
Thank you, for your vote, but I'm not running, I'm farming. Use a handle you chickensh-t!

[dnach]

henbent, name calling, come now.
Why is it not possible to have an open domestic market (Can, U.S.), And the overseas market handeled by the CWB like the feed barley, feed wheat markets? This would give more incentive for secondary processing to be done right here would it not? Maybe Charlie or Lee could answer this more logicaly than some of the blind reaction from hardcore CWB supporters.

[AdamSmith]

henbent,

Very often people, myself included, like to talk about the things they don't like. For instance I like open markets while you like the single desk.

Here's a challenge. Present to me a convincing argument as to why my farm business will be better served and more prosperous under the single desk system than the open market system?

Remember, I've cashed alot of wheat and barley cheques,Board and Non Board (winter wheat,cps wheat,feed barley), and no one yet has presented to me that eureka argument as to how my farm will be more prosperous by cashing lesser value cheques each time I sell wheat and or barley.

But I invite you or any other single desk supported to try.

[dnach]

good call adam

[TOM4CWB]

Henbent;

I sold 200t of #1CWfeed barley to the CWB in August, farm gate price at that time would have netted between $2.75 and $3.00/bu if the CWB had allowed us to cash out at that time...

NOW, the CWB is taking another contract, reducing my pool, was at $2.45, I can see we are again headed lower...

Please tell me how this has helped my farm?

Why won't the CWB allow those sparkling high single desk prices to ever get printed on a cash check with my name on the front of it?

If the single desk can pass back 100% of the margin, why shouldn't we be allowed a cash price, during the year, if we sign up for it and don't want or need the pool?

Why should I pay a contingency fund/pool account at least $10 to 20/t just to cash price my board grains

This shoots the ... out of the CWB principal that they return 100% back to me. THEY HAVEN'T YET in all the years I have done PPO'S!