Trump's Speech on Paris Accord

[sumdumguy]

Chuck and Grass, if you give all of your money, your land, your home to the Paris Accord for redistribution, you will feel like a million dollars from that day forward. Think what a difference you can make in the world if you can convince all your friends to join you. Everyone can make a difference. Let's start with you.

[burnt]

Chuck and Grass, if you give all of your money, your land, your home to the Paris Accord for redistribution, you will feel like a million dollars from that day forward. Think what a difference you can make in the world if you can convince all your friends to join you. Everyone can make a difference. Let's start with you.

LOL! Or imagine grassy, chucky or forage and others pedaling bikes around, delivering their tofu products to smiling potheads...

Great idea!

But like all Liberals, they will only like practical applications to theoretical "problems" when they affect others, not themselves!

[vvalk]

So are there more trees around La Ronge than down around the Big Muddy? Pretty sure it's hotter in the south than the north in your province. Have you been to Death Valley? heard of El Azizia, Libya or the Sahara?

Grassy what makes you think because the world warms up you will get more deserts? Liife has always flourished during warm periods which were a lot warmer then today. Life always perishes during ice ages that were. Not 20000 years ago Where we farm the Ice was over a mile thick! Question for grass and chuck. What would it take for you to admit the world may actually be cooling? I know you'll laugh to your self and think what a dumb ass and tell yourself how much smarter you are then everyone else but more and more data is showing that's where we are heading. Just curious what it takes to change from what I would call religious blind faith in all this. Just wait for it, pull out the 97% of scientists statement which has totally been proven as a fabrication

[Hamloc]

I recall a joke made when George W Bush was in power - when asked by a reporter for his opinion on the Kyoto accord he replied by asking "the two door or the four door?"
Bush must be laughing now as Trump takes over the title of the dumbest American president ever elected.

Grassfarmer, you should take a look at George Bushes home in Texas. It uses a geothermal heating and is very energy efficient. And what about the environment's buddy Al Gore, he has what 4 houses? George Bush certainly was far from perfect but he is not as full of BS as Al Gore.

As for the Paris Accord, it is a nice aspirational document. But let's be realistic, since it's signing both Canada's and the U.S.'s C02 have continued to rise. Instead of proposing to tax the shit out of everybody, why not invest in research that makes so-called green alternatives more affordable. If they make economic sense no government subsidy or law is required for people to use them!

[FertaCloud]

Saw the CEO of the USA's biggest coal miner on CNBC today. He was a happy man. Others thought that globally people will buy less USA goods negatively effecting exports......

[perfecho]

Not weighing in on the Paris accord, don't know enough about it.....just a comment on your last post Hamloc....Governments need not get involved if economically feasible.....just thinking that most big changes have come around with government involvement. Our oil sands in Alberta, the government was heavily involved, computers, our railway system, in the past , much of our Ag development was done through government research.....and after googling....jets, aircraft, universities, highways and the internet.
Sometimes, they must be smarter than we give them credit for.....Cheers.

[blackpowder]

Sure hope there is a Trudeau in the future. That way he can legislate a halt to the impending ice age.
Enlarging the 'middle class' by lowering the qualifier and putting us all in the same leaky boat.
Of course we dare not question.......

[grassfarmer]

Grassy what makes you think because the world warms up you will get more deserts? Liife has always flourished during warm periods which were a lot warmer then today.

Errr, maybe look at the history of the prairies during the 1930s?

[sofa.king]

Farm practices have changed since the thirties. Had we not changed since then we would be in a dust bowl this spring.

[Hamloc]

Ok Grassfarmer I need some clarification. Are you saying climate change caused the extended period of drought in the 1930's? Really?

[Hamloc]

Grassfarmer, you feel Trump is the stupidest President ever. You need to read Terrence Corcoran's latest comment in the Financial Post: Trump calls out the global-control agenda of the Paris deal, but Canada remains oblivious. I would say you fall into the oblivious camp as well.

Do we need to be more efficient? Absolutely but is that what the Paris accord is really about? Not in my opinion. It is just like Premier Notley's carbon tax, it is all about wealth redistribution. Get mad and call me a Neanderthal if you like but environmentalists have been predicting the collapse of our earth for decades and we are still here. The same predictions were made when the Kyoto accord was created but nobody lowered their emissions. Now Trump is being lampooned by all, in this case he is the only one being realistic.

[perfecho]

Listening to Stephen Carter on the Jespersen show, the chief of staff for Redford and PC strategist, thought the move of carbon tax in Alberta is what put the Kinder Morgan pipeline on the drawing board....quite liked the segment. Liked his view on the BC coalition....more like a Trump scenario, make a bunch of claims and shoot off at the mouth, but when it doesn't come thru, they just say "we tried."
(He was actually more complimentary to Notely than one would think....)
The Carbon tax, whether it helps global warming or not, is more about perception, education and focusing on doing the right thing...IMHO....and in a few years, will be as accepted as GST.
But, am occasionally wrong...;-)

[fjlip]

CO2 IS NOT POLLUTION. It is absolutely necessary for ALL PLANT life on earth. The more the merrier.

Yes the 1930's and all those EVIL diesel/gas engines. All the oil industry, oops started in 1947....so ah ah I guess 1930's were because we paid TOO little taxes, let's not make that mistake...pay HIGHER taxes to COOL the planet. Immediately JT, help!

[grassfarmer]

Hamloc, it doesn't need any clarification I highlighted the poster and post I was replying to. Don't try to twist it into something I didn't say.

[foragefarmer]

For those of you thinking the motivation behind Trumps decision to drop out of the Paris Accord was doing what's best for the USA should take your blinders off. By dropping out of the Paris Accord Trump did what was best for him, and that was keeping his voter base happy nothing else. His adviser Ivanka was against daddy's move, not to mention countless CEO's of major USA companies but, Steve Bannon and Reince Priebus have Trumps ear.

Well the USA now has another thing in common with Syria and Nicaragua other than having USA bombs on their soils!! What a group to be lumped in with, how many of you on here have ancestors from either of those two countries or gone for a visit to them?