A tale of two Canadas: Where you grew up affects your income in adulthood

[Horse]

Immigrants yea they all come prepared to use the system and know how.

[Oliver88]

There is way too much emphasis put on university education all the arts and science classes and psychology do nothing in the real world. The university system has become a money machine instead of a place for higher learning. I think it's time to start teaching trades in high school that is what is important to society.

Well put, sofa.king. Way too many resources and time allotted for degrees that will have little benefit or practical use in society at the same time VERY necessary trades being somewhat neglected.

[sumdumguy]

Parents and the love of learning can have the biggest affect on their children's lives. Parents who value education, encourage in that direction but I also have watched people in our little village constrain their children by minimizing their kids' potential-glad to say some kids broke away and surprised themselves. One example - elevator agent's son (some info left unsaid) was an engineer through his working career and now at 67 years old is this best engineering professor.

There is so much more we all can be if we never stop learning - there's a big world out there and parents can encourage their children to go after the big apples - or not.

[grassfarmer]

Why is it the immigrants to this country have a better work ethic than our complacent citizens? Opportunity?

Human nature. People only work as hard as they have to. Immigrants are starting behind the eight ball so have to work harder or two jobs first to afford the basics and later to acquire all the stuff the locals have. Quite often the second generation become complacent citizens too.

[LEP]

You can beat yourselves on the back all you want as how you pulled yourselves up by your boot straps but that's all bullwhip why aren't you all colonel sanders or bill gates or Donald trump... YOU all failed lots of you think because you didn't get the new pickup for grad you are under privileged, some of us couldn't afford a corsage for grad, if we did graduate , but we did advance, , there are a lot of us that have on a percentage basis have done way better that a lot but still don't have millions but we started from O
Klaus you was defending rig workers, most never earned shot , they go paid big but didn't earn it,a monkey with little exp could do most of there jobs. How are you doing trucking to the coast ? how's the container business doing, come tell me how you are doing in 10/20 yrs then Mabry you have something to crow about.!!!

Ya Horse, next you will be telling us how you REALLY had it hard and made out well. Everyone starts out in a different place with different circumstances. It's what you do with it that counts.

Your name should be horse's ass.

[stonepicker]

Ya Horse, next you will be telling us how you REALLY had it hard and made out well. Everyone starts out in a different place with different circumstances. It's what you do with it that counts.

Your name should be horse's ass.

Like, agree.

[sumdumguy]

Geez, I used to like Horses

[furrowtickler]

Horses = baloney

[foragefarmer]

Sofa King


There is way too much emphasis put on university education all the arts and science classes and
psychology do nothing in the real world.


Not going to comment on two of the degrees you mentioned, but just wondering how you can knock science when you are a farmer.

You don't apply herbicides, or plant new seed varieties, on your farm?

[blackpowder]

A lot of good posts.
To the original. The best thing to happen to Newfoundland was Ft. McMurray. End of story.
Taxing the shit out of us to pour money down an education rabbit hole where there are no jobs to start with (either by region or by study field) is fine inclusive thinking but i believe flawed.

I follow Mike Rowe. He has interesting things to say regarding trades etc. His best, to me, is his speech on 'the dignity of work'.
Big topic.

[perfecho]

Read "The Outliers".....data shows that success and wealth can have to do with when and where you are born.....I can see it from myself and many class mates....many have done extremely well because we were smart enough to be born when we were, where we were. Yeah, some worked hard, but I also know a lot of people who worked hard and it didn't turn out the same for them.
Much of the world does lack opportunity, and we were blessed with much of that...and yes, you had to take risks, but the opportunity has been here for many of us.
When I think of people...yes people, no matter what religion....risking their lives and their children's on a boat that they have no idea whether it will make it or not...and are willing to take the chance because of turmoil they are leaving behind, I am truly thankful for where I am. I really don't deserve this bounty, but like most entitled adults of our time, I'll take it.

[farmaholic]

An acquaintance of mine was once heard saying, "the harder I work the luckier I am". May not always be true for everyone but there is an element of truth to it. He was also a risk taker!!!! Also surrounding yourself with people that "open doors" for each other helps immensely.