Medicare

[15444]

Agreed Helmsdale....there is as much, if not more, abuse of the healthcare system by doctors as patients. There's no doubt some situations are critical but many visits could probably be avoided.

It is an Indusrty thats sole purpose is to keep people healthy. ...at all costs.

What about the people who don't take care of themselves? Their habits and lifestyle choices that aren't conducive to good health....is that society's responsibility to keep them healthy. The cost to society is financial, to the person......potentially their life. If they don't care why should I? How and where do you draw the line?

As one of those people who doesn't take care of themselves (by skinny-**** vegetarian standards) - as long as I am paying out the ass on tax for healthcare and every sin tax, you're damn right the system can take care of us. Too bad cancer/heart disease/diabetes wasn't contagious as the government would actually put the money forth to cure them. Look at Ebola and how fast a vaccine was developed for it when the elite dipshits realized it was within the borders of North America. No, arts and UN funding is so much more important.

[ajl]

Agree helms. I had a medical for my class 1 a few years ago. While there, I asked about prescription renewal on the same visit. Was told the the doctor was not supposed to do that but he did it anyways because to do otherwise would be silly. The system is abused by many. That abuse is now so normal it would unimaginable otherwise. I would like to see a copay system with a user fee at the time of a visit and healthcare insurance to pay balance so bring costs under control.

[Hopalong]

As much as some of us might wish for it, do not see enough pressure being put on Canada or British or Australian governments to move significantly back to user pay systems.
Expect adjustments to tax system to extract more money from affluent elderly to mollify younger generation.
Obamacare was a move by United States toward more taxpayer funded health care but Trump is not getting anywhere fast in efforts to repeal it. Success or lack of it for Trump will likely indicate which way we go here.

[blackpowder]

I salute everyone on here whose entire family has perfect genetics and nun like lifestyles.
Glad that gods dont govern.

[farmaholic]

No such thing BP. An aging body no matter how well it was maintained will break down in time. I had/have way more bad "habits" than a single holier than thou "habit". lol

[hobbyfrmr]

Id say user fees would be a good thing, min $150 just to walk into the hosipital door. The problem is probably 5% of the population uses 80% of the medicare system. It is quite likely the government will continue to support these people and not charge them anything. As for the person who rarely uses the system, one who takes care of themself, and is fortunate enough to never of had a serious condition will pay more and more for all the drunks, smokers, druggiees , glue sniffers, obese, etc.

Most nurses talk with suggest a $5.00 admitting fee. Somebody always has $5.00 for a pop and bag of chips while waiting for medical service.

[sawfly1]

user fee would be fine. just swipe your health card, your dinged on your taxes or taken out of entitlements.

as far as clean living. i call bull, i think the sinners are the only ones paying their share .
smokers usually go pretty quick.
3600 a year in taxes pays for a lot of healthcare.

smokers 50 60 70 .. heart atttack , lung cancer ,
healthy people have those same problems just later,80- 90
1/2 the people die of cancer. in the end anyway.

but in the mean time they have had hip replacement , knee surgery ,
cataracts operations and been out of the work force for 30 years. collecting the smokers pension money.

DR.s and pharmacists have a great union. and control their own supply.
make their own rules.
no reason i should have to go to the doctor to get a gout prescription renewed.
not like i can peddle it on the street .

no reason to have so few pharmacists. restricted access and 7 years in university to count pills.

from what i have seen, hospital service has been great.
esp battleford
efficient fast smart

[WiltonRanch]

Been in emerg my fair share. What you sure notice lots of the same types use the medical system more than others. Poor and uneducated. Lifestyle is a determining factor of overall health.

[Klause]

3 weeks to get an ultrasound


Pay $129 have it done next day. Hmmm

[blackpowder]

Agree sawfly.