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    US China Trade War

    This article taken from Zerohedge could prove bullish for Canadian canola demand by China.

    "The small trade war between China and the US is becoming ever more rancid.

    In the latest development, this morning we reported*that the Trump administration is planning a probe of what the U.S. sees as violations of intellectual property by China. Against a backdrop of Trump’s frustrations with domestic policy, sliding approval ratings and disagreement with China over North Korea, the chances of protectionist action are rising according to Bloomberg while*CNBC adds that the officialstart date of the trade war will be this Friday.

    But who stands to lose - and win - if the U.S. takes aim at the unbalanced trade relationship? Bloomberg has done the math and found that with total trade of more than half a trillion dollars a year, the list of potential losers is very long. The most notable examples include:

    U.S. companies such as Apple Inc., which assemble their products in China for sale in the U.S., and those tapping demand in China’s expanding consumer market.U.S. agricultural and transport-equipment firms, which meet China’s demand for soy beans and aircraft.Manufacturing firms from the U.S. that import intermediate products from China as an input into their production process.Retailers including Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and the U.S. consumers that benefit from low-price imported consumer electronics, clothes and furniture.Other trade partners caught in the crossfire of poorly-targeted tariffs. On steel, for example, U.S. direct imports from China account for less than 3% of the total -- below Vietnam.

    And while conventional wisdom is that the US has a chronic trade deficit with China - it does - the U.S. also runs a nearly $17 billion trade surplus with China for agricultural products. China consumes about half of U.S. soybean exports, America’s second largest planted field crop. Soybean farms are mostly located in the the upper Midwest (Illinois, Iowa, Indiana, Minnesota and Nebraska). The volumes are so significant that a spike in soybean exports was a noticeable contributor to GDP growth in the second half of last year asreaders may recall. China is also a major buyer of U.S. aircraft, perhaps the only areas of manufacturing where the U.S. retains a competitive edge (though*not for much longer). The U.S. also has an $8 billion dollar trade surplus with China in the transportation equipment category.

    U.S. Trade Balance With China by Product

    How about geographially?

    It may come as a surprise that on a state-by-state basis,eight U.S. states are running surpluses with China,*six of which supported Trump in last year’s presidential election, including West Virginia. In 2016, Louisiana registered the largest surplus, at 2.9% of the state’s GDP. Louisiana’s exports to China are likely inflated given that 60% of U.S. soybean exports are shipped through the Gulf coast. Washington state was second at 1.6% of GDP, largely due to aerospace exports.

    Tennessee maintains the largest trade deficit with China at 6.5% of GDP, meaning tariff-induced increases in the price of imports could have the biggest impact on this state.

    The biggest losers? Mississippi, Georgia, Illinois and* California, all of which maintain deficits at more than 3% of GDP.

    For the sake of brevity, we will not discuss another, more troubling, aspect of conventional wisdom, namely that trade wars almost inevitably lead to real wars. Aside for the US military industrial complex, there are no winners there."

    #2
    China needs to export more to the US so it can't afford any type of trade war so there is no trade war. China steals intellectual property all the time. That is well known. US holds all the card here.

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      #3
      Why did manufacturing move to China....?

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        #4
        I find it odd and downright foolish to be starting trade wars with China and Russia. The USD is the reserve currency in which all goods on the world markey are said to be traded. Yet the US is not open for business? Sounds like they are shooting themselves in the foot and helping expedite the alternative currency swap system of trade in the East. China is the world's factory im not convinced that they need the US more than the US needs China. The US has the standard of living they do because they are the world's money printing factory, but for how much longer who knows?
        Last edited by biglentil; Aug 3, 2017, 07:58.

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          #5
          Manufacturing moved to China because people here don't work for free. Over there they have no choice. China cuts the value of currency regularly delivering pay cuts to the manufacturing worker. We benefit from that. What all business needs is a customer that pays. For everyone that is the US market.

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            #6
            Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
            Why did manufacturing move to China....?
            Manufacturing has many toxic by by-products, there you just dump them in the river.

            And yes, labour.

            Mind you minimum wage was brought in to effectively replace slavery. Then the company owner didn't have to feed and house the slave. Cheaper to pay them pittance, they have to take care of themselves, and the optics are better. Whipping has been replaced with mental anguish and poverty.

            Its why raising minimum wage is such a big deal here.

            China, no such "problems", right Apple?

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              #7
              It was a sarcastic rhetorical question....
              Labour, cost of some raw materials, currency, environment. Trump was thumping his chest about bringing business/jobs back to American soil. We know why they left in the first place, how do you bribe/bait them back?

              I have huge trading deficits with anyone I do business with, chem, fert, fuel, etc....don't directly buy my goods. If you need something when you can't or don't make it yourself you source it somewhere else. I don't directly support the companies that buy my product either.

              Trade imbalance? America: the worlds "consumers"...in more than one sense.

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