Is the durum a dud too?!?

[wmoebis]

Method to determine test weight

https://www.grainscanada.gc.ca/oggg-gocg/01/oggg-gocg-1-eng.htm


For #1 here's the weight needed

It is the procedure that has to be done properly and has to be watched. Lots of ways to screw up a test weight but only one proper way to do it.

It's in the grain grading guide.

[Dylan]

If more of the world population was "really" hungry there wouldn't be stupid ****ing reasons to down grade grain.

Perfect grain is wanted from an almost always imperfect environment its produced in.

I looked at the pic with a 10X magnifier and I seen fusarium in the creases!!!!

So you're saying that if people are starving, too ****ongn bad for them, they should eat what they're given and pay you top dollar to get it? Quite the humanitarian!

I've been reading on here for a long, long time and I know that if I worked somewhere, ANYWHERE where you and SF3 wanted to deal: I'd probably find a reason to get your whiney asses back out the door too! Can you blame people? Holy Christmas! Listen to yourselves. Would you want to deal with you? And don't give me that line of being treated fair. If you walk into ANY place of business with a chip on your shoulder like you CLEARLY have, you're gonna get treated like you treat others, end of story.

[sk_wheatking]

Your gonna get what they give....What's this.....your not happy.......your going to go to the next buyer......😂😂😂 LOL!

[HITTGrapevine]

maybe history will repeat itself.
prairie farmers once had a large share of control over how their grain was bought, and graded, and marketed.
prairie wheat pools were farmer owned and controlled, until someone let a few too many weasels into the hen house.
sask wheat pool's remnants are now owned by viterra and glencore, which operate like any other private sector grain company (ie buy low and sell high).
should have hung on to wheat pool co-operatives when we had them.
even the few remaining farmer-owned terminals are being sold off now to the big boys. for shame
take what we're given, indeed.

[biglentil]

Dylan ! Farma and sf3 have every right to express concerns about grain grading !

How would you like being told your Durum's # 5 when actually its top quality ????

# 5 at harvest # 2 when they want it ! Thats an insult to the Farmer !

Thats just it they've got the durum market cornered and CGC is in their pocket book. Farmers are getting robbed blind!

[Dylan]

Dylan ! Farma and sf3 have every right to express concerns about grain grading !

How would you like being told your Durum's # 5 when actually its top quality ????

# 5 at harvest # 2 when they want it ! Thats an insult to the Farmer !

Expressing concerns about grading isn't constantly whining like Farma does about his grades. I'm not insulting the farmer. Why would I insult myself? If you get insulted that easily, call your mom.
If their durum is being called a 5 when it's top quality, then maybe it's like I said: a reason to get their whiney asses back out the door.
Different markets will open up as the quality becomes more we'll known, anyone who's been in this game for very long knows that, at least they should. Maybe some people should spend more time educating themselves on marketing rather than whining on here about how bad they're getting ****ed. Seems to me that there's been more bitchin about grading since the wheatboard is gone, and from me and my marketing club have discussed: it's cause some guys don't understand how to market their durum and wheat. They think it's like marketing canola. It's totally different. If you build a good relationship with your buyer, they'll give
You info for free. If you don't trust your buyer, then you need to find a new one. When you have almost a dozen delivery options and still can't Find a buyer who you trust: look at the common denominator.
Farma said he farms East of Regina. Do you know how many delivery options are in that area?? Lots! More than most areas. So what I'm saying is: maybe, just maybe his attitude towards his buyer is his main problem.
I deal in the Regina area. I also take advantage of the fact that we have a ton of delivery options here: Cargill, Pioneer, Viterra (not a big fan of them but still an option), Paterson, G3, P&H, Scoular, Schluuter Mack, LDM as well as independents. Also being this close, shipping to the U.S. is an option also. I would be lying if I said I never had a grade or dockage dispute. But I didn't go around screaming and moaning about how I got bent over. I went into the office and talked to my buyer and they took the time to explain things to me so I understood why it was grading the way it was. I said I was going to get a second opinion before I settled, and guess what? I wasn't getting ****ed! My grain was just not as good as I hoped.
When you have that many different companies to deal with and you feel like everyone is out to get you, maybe you're the problem. I'm not insulting anyone. It's just a fact: if you treat another human being like they're a stupid piece of shit who's out to get you, don't EVER expect a favour in return. And definitely don't expect that they'll be upset if you go somewhere else. They're probably hoping for it!

[farmaholic]

I bet I have more allies than enemies on that front. I sell grain to Cos that give the best deal...price and grade. Yup, lots of options here, thank goodness. So when you stand up for yourself.....you get the reputation of being "hard to deal with". And you know what? If certain Cos don't want my grain that's ok....there's lots of options. I always thank them when we're done hauling too, the elevator staff and Rep.. I'm not the big bad boogie-man you think I am. Just out spoken and opinionated.

And to think no one gets taken advantage of is just niave.

Thanks for posting...the more the merrier.

[wmoebis]

I would bet more farmers don't know if they are getting taken or can't identify human error, than there are ones that can.

How many can tell you what accual PANS from DKG machine are suppose to be weight and assessed as dockage? What is PROPER procedure to do test weight? How do you properly pick Fuss damage and what kernals are only suppose to be assessed as damaged. Is your elevator ddividing sample down properly to do a hand pick. Or what diff does any of this make?

How many farmers look at the actual % numbers that is on the scale and make sure that it has been entered onto your check accurately, human error or intentional entering it wrong?

[sumdumguy]

Yeh, you whiners, bent over and take it like real men. lol

[farmaholic]

wmoebis, I doubt there's much complaints about dockage these days compared to grading....

FOR ****'S SAKE, THERE HE GOES AGAIN!!!!!!!!

I had malt barley that "supposedly" had wheat in it spared the feed grade after the Assiatant Grain Commisioner opened the locked box.

I saw with my own eyes a sample of durum picked down a grade or two on account of midge. A sample was weighed---it was picked...the damaged kernels were weighed....then the sample picked once more to "get enough damage".

Seems like my honesty or my statements of the insanity of some of the methods and results hits nerves with some people.

I choose not to be treated like a fool! Maybe instead of slagging people for creating awareness and encouraging they stand up for themselves....

Grain Cos have called me looking for grain....late this summer...flax and green peas(I think they realized the dry crisis developing). Last winter...CWRS...we made a deal that was quite good at the time....hauled it in some of the coldest weather late last year....a train was due to arrive. Made a $12.00 canola deal....loose delivery schedule. .....flax...to Winkler...milling quality....excellent relationship with the buyer. Respect is reciprocal.....both ****ing ways!

Fool me once...shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me!!!

Harvest and work safe "everyone".