Canada's debt to gdp

[chuckChuck]

Canada's amazing growth rate is sponsored by out-of-control government deficit spending. Soon, a reality check, as the piper will have to be paid . . . .

Does not Canada have a triple A credit rating? If so this indicates that credit rating agencies consider Canada to be in relatively good financial position. While government debt levels are a concern we are in better shape than many other countries. Better than the US.
Consumer debt and housing prices would be of greater concern because incomes are not rising as fast. Rising interest rates will be a big issue for many consumers as many have over spent on housing and vehicles.

[grassfarmer]

Oh heck no, The largest sector of Canada's economy right now, at just over 12% is Real estate & rental services... Let that sink in... Our economy is built on trading houses worth 10% of what they are selling for.

We will never have a manufacturing industry here... unions have made it too expensive, and Canadian workers are some of the most inefficient in the world (according to a HR guy I know at a multinational)

Another good topic Klause and shame it got derailed into partizan politics because I don't think for a minute there has been a noticeable change in types of trade carried out by Canada and Canadians since the Liberals took over from the Conservatives.
These are societal changes and part of the "global trade" holy grail that so many reach for. People in first world countries no longer want to do the production stuff because production is dirty, hard work and gets done cheaper in the 3rd world so we export the production. We've got fat and lazy as citizens and consumers and want everything we buy to be cheaper ignoring the environmental and human costs that often imposes on 3rd world countries.

Britain was ahead of Canada in this regards by probably 20 years plus. Used to have an economy built on production - coal, steel, ship building, cars, aircraft and these are largely all gone now. It amazes me how many jobs they have been able to create in the service sector - countless kids going to university to get a degree in "hospitality management"

I don't think it's purely a Canadian problem, a union caused problem and certainly not a Liberal versus Conservative problem. It's societal change in the very fake world we live in.

[furrowtickler]

And the cutting of trees, the growing of food, the catching of fish, the trapping of furrs... the extraction of minerals is the only way that money is ever given value... Everything else is simply moving money in circles.

That is exactly right 👍👍
The rest of the economy is just circulating existing money . JT is going to kill the industries that create money - if anyone can't see that they are just plain stupid

[Klause]

Another good topic Klause and shame it got derailed into partizan politics because I don't think for a minute there has been a noticeable change in types of trade carried out by Canada and Canadians since the Liberals took over from the Conservatives.
These are societal changes and part of the "global trade" holy grail that so many reach for. People in first world countries no longer want to do the production stuff because production is dirty, hard work and gets done cheaper in the 3rd world so we export the production. We've got fat and lazy as citizens and consumers and want everything we buy to be cheaper ignoring the environmental and human costs that often imposes on 3rd world countries.

Britain was ahead of Canada in this regards by probably 20 years plus. Used to have an economy built on production - coal, steel, ship building, cars, aircraft and these are largely all gone now. It amazes me how many jobs they have been able to create in the service sector - countless kids going to university to get a degree in "hospitality management"

I don't think it's purely a Canadian problem, a union caused problem and certainly not a Liberal versus Conservative problem. It's societal change in the very fake world we live in.

I completely agree with you grass.


This is a glutton and entitlement problem. Somehow the Scandinavians and Germans have been able to get away from it at least in part.


The decadence over entitlement and belief that a person is too good for a job is the reason we have no manufacturing and no industry.


A philipino is happy to work at a fert plant make his $20 per hour and go home to his family. A "Canadian" needs twice that, doesn't do half the work, is always using some sort of 'leave' to get out of work and wants- no believes he needs to own a fancy pickup a fancy camper and 3 quads plus a house at the lake.

[ajl]

It helps Germany that the loser members of the EU keep the currency cheap helping German exports. If they were using the Duetsch mark today, German exports would be lower.

[chuckChuck]

I completely agree with you grass.


This is a glutton and entitlement problem. Somehow the Scandinavians and Germans have been able to get away from it at least in part.


The decadence over entitlement and belief that a person is too good for a job is the reason we have no manufacturing and no industry.


A philipino is happy to work at a fert plant make his $20 per hour and go home to his family. A "Canadian" needs twice that, doesn't do half the work, is always using some sort of 'leave' to get out of work and wants- no believes he needs to own a fancy pickup a fancy camper and 3 quads plus a house at the lake.

It is a mistake to say we have no manufacturing and industry. A few years ago you couldn't find an employee because there was too many jobs going unfilled in Western Canada. We still have alot of ag manufacturing, aerospace, construction, tech jobs many of them in Western canada. We are short of skilled computer programmers. What about all the construction jobs as we replace aging infrastructure and housing?

We are overly dependent on resources. Commodities go up and down with supply and demand. We have seen this before and survived. Did anyone expect the out of control hyper boom to last for ever? That was unsustainable growth and not the norm. Our economy is still growing.

[errolanderson]

Does not Canada have a triple A credit rating? If so this indicates that credit rating agencies consider Canada to be in relatively good financial position. While government debt levels are a concern we are in better shape than many other countries. Better than the US.
Consumer debt and housing prices would be of greater concern because incomes are not rising as fast. Rising interest rates will be a big issue for many consumers as many have over spent on housing and vehicles.

Canada's triple A rating is a reflection of the past fiscal policy. At this rate of government debt explosion, the challenge may be whether a triple A rating is warranted in the future. The Bank of Canada can ill-afford to hike rates further in October (IMO) given record consumer debt and erupting gov't spending . . .

[LEP]

Ajl. Bingo. You win the prize. Therein lies the reason Germany put up with the eu bs.

[Klause]

It is a mistake to say we have no manufacturing and industry. A few years ago you couldn't find an employee because there was too many jobs going unfilled in Western Canada. We still have alot of ag manufacturing, aerospace, construction, tech jobs many of them in Western canada. We are short of skilled computer programmers. What about all the construction jobs as we replace aging infrastructure and housing?

We are overly dependent on resources. Commodities go up and down with supply and demand. We have seen this before and survived. Did anyone expect the out of control hyper boom to last for ever? That was unsustainable growth and not the norm. Our economy is still growing.

You're shitting me right?



Gdp numbers don't lie...

We do have some manufacturing out here... But little compared to the economy as a whole. You should travel the world Chuck... Your posts on here show you have zero understanding about economy industry or how things work...


Canada's industry has another problem too .. it's called constant screw ups.


Go find out about all the pipe evraz made for line 3 that didn't pass quality control and had to get re smelted.

We build air seeders drilling rigs rock pickers tarps and grain trailers... It's something but a far cry from real industrialization.


Even those times of labour shortage... Lots of people without work... Because they didn't want to take the jobs available.


There used to be a GM truck plant in Regina. We used to build cars... Engines... Ships... Washing machines.


My mother in law works in IT. There no shortage of skilled programers. There's a shortage of mature people. Millennials are horrible to work with they don't show up they are always on leave and there's no productivity.


IT is getting outsourced for that reason...


We have a major problem and until people like you get your heads out of the sand and see it acknowledge it and start doing something about it it will only get worse.

[furrowtickler]

Well said young man 👍👍

[bucket]

Klause

Remelted into rock pickers air drills and rollers. ....lol its a good recycle program....environmentalists would love it.....

Lmao....

Probably the pipe sat and the specs changed..


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[chuckChuck]

You're shitting me right?



Gdp numbers don't lie...

We do have some manufacturing out here... But little compared to the economy as a whole. You should travel the world Chuck... Your posts on here show you have zero understanding about economy industry or how things work...


Canada's industry has another problem too .. it's called constant screw ups.


Go find out about all the pipe evraz made for line 3 that didn't pass quality control and had to get re smelted.

We build air seeders drilling rigs rock pickers tarps and grain trailers... It's something but a far cry from real industrialization.


Even those times of labour shortage... Lots of people without work... Because they didn't want to take the jobs available.


There used to be a GM truck plant in Regina. We used to build cars... Engines... Ships... Washing machines.


My mother in law works in IT. There no shortage of skilled programers. There's a shortage of mature people. Millennials are horrible to work with they don't show up they are always on leave and there's no productivity.


IT is getting outsourced for that reason...


We have a major problem and until people like you get your heads out of the sand and see it acknowledge it and start doing something about it it will only get worse.

We have been shedding manufacturing jobs for a long time. Mexico, China have taken a lot of jobs because of lower wages and costs. We also became uncompetitive because of a higher currency based on high priced oil and other commodities. What is your plan to get the lost jobs back?