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    #37
    Originally posted by Klause View Post
    You're shitting me right?



    Gdp numbers don't lie...

    We do have some manufacturing out here... But little compared to the economy as a whole. You should travel the world Chuck... Your posts on here show you have zero understanding about economy industry or how things work...


    Canada's industry has another problem too .. it's called constant screw ups.


    Go find out about all the pipe evraz made for line 3 that didn't pass quality control and had to get re smelted.

    We build air seeders drilling rigs rock pickers tarps and grain trailers... It's something but a far cry from real industrialization.


    Even those times of labour shortage... Lots of people without work... Because they didn't want to take the jobs available.


    There used to be a GM truck plant in Regina. We used to build cars... Engines... Ships... Washing machines.


    My mother in law works in IT. There no shortage of skilled programers. There's a shortage of mature people. Millennials are horrible to work with they don't show up they are always on leave and there's no productivity.


    IT is getting outsourced for that reason...


    We have a major problem and until people like you get your heads out of the sand and see it acknowledge it and start doing something about it it will only get worse.
    I am not sure where you are getting your information from. Perhaps it is you who are not well informed?
    Klause, take a look at the following link:

    www.investorsfriend.com/canadian-gdp-canadian-imports-and-exports/

    In 2016 manufacturing is the second largest sector in the GDP after Real estate selling, renting and leasing. This is larger than mining, oil and gas combined. Our number one export is still motor vehicles and parts closely followed by energy. Both are much larger than saying farming and intermediate food products.

    Canada is considered an industrial Country. Can we do better? Absolutely. But being overly dependent on energy exports puts us in a vulnerable and perhaps unsustainable situation.

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      #38
      If the US stops buying Cdn goods we are beyond screwed. 77% goes to them.

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        #39
        Originally posted by tweety View Post
        If the US stops buying Cdn goods we are beyond screwed. 77% goes to them.
        Or not....we would send stuff elsewhere, adapt and find new markets as trade always does. The US has been the low hanging fruit because of its proximity.

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          #40
          The US is the only market in the world that actually buys stuff. Everyone else is export only and everyone is trying to devalue currently to export more to the US. You can try export else where but nobody gonna buy your stuff any where else. World trade lesson over.

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            #41
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            I am not sure where you are getting your information from. Perhaps it is you who are not well informed?
            Klause, take a look at the following link:

            www.investorsfriend.com/canadian-gdp-canadian-imports-and-exports/

            In 2016 manufacturing is the second largest sector in the GDP after Real estate selling, renting and leasing. This is larger than mining, oil and gas combined. Our number one export is still motor vehicles and parts closely followed by energy. Both are much larger than saying farming and intermediate food products.

            Canada is considered an industrial Country. Can we do better? Absolutely. But being overly dependent on energy exports puts us in a vulnerable and perhaps unsustainable situation.
            Really??? You're still harping on the energy sector??? The largest single portion of the economy of this country relies on buying and selling worthless overpriced houses.... And you're complaining about the energy sector???


            Half of our GDP growth comes from effing real estate!!!

            http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/as-economy-shrinks-real-estate-now-accounts-for-half-of-all-gdp-growth-1.3008105


            Now instead of reading crap read stats can's gdp by sector report.
            http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/gdps04a-eng.htm

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              #42
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              We have been shedding manufacturing jobs for a long time. Mexico, China have taken a lot of jobs because of lower wages and costs. We also became uncompetitive because of a higher currency based on high priced oil and other commodities. What is your plan to get the lost jobs back?

              Euro that Germany uses is way hogher than CAF. Poor excuse.


              Real reason we lost all those vehicle jobs? Unions. Plain and simple. Demanding too much way to edpe sive to build cars ere so all the cheaper mass production leaves

              Here's the problem. A million people making $24 an hour are worth far more to the economy than 50,000 making $60. UAW didn't figure that out



              You need to go live in another country chunky.

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                #43
                Well Klause, can't let you get away with that one...even though not a big union supporter, but like many things,,, they have there place. And, if you don't think the major companies have pacts and agreements to guarantee profits.....why are we paying a buck a liter when oil is at less than $50? That's not a union...??
                Was heavily involved in oilfield business ....many times a product could be sourced from China and a few more bucks could be had, it often went that way...and the sell price didn't go down....it was wherever the best buck could be made....right or wrong...inferior or not...
                So, should only business owners be entitled to profit? Why should only business owners be entitled to a decent level of living? Why do many think that just because it is cheaper to manufacture in a country that doesn't value safety, basic human rights and pay their workers a decent wage, they should be able to capitalize and make even more profit, even though it hurts your own country to do so....and yet they cry foul if a competitor from another country infringes on their territory.
                This is why unions do get support....and I personally, would like to live in a country where everyone worked on raising the bar for all....not just themselves. Many companies who treat their workers with dignity and respect, don't have to worry about a union....
                Germany pays high wages to auto workers...and does very well....why not use that business model?

                https://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2011/12/21/germany-builds-twice-as-many-cars-as-the-u-s-while-paying-its-auto-workers-twice-as-much/#32881f056b78

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                  #44
                  Originally posted by Klause View Post
                  Really??? You're still harping on the energy sector??? The largest single portion of the economy of this country relies on buying and selling worthless overpriced houses.... And you're complaining about the energy sector???


                  Half of our GDP growth comes from effing real estate!!!
                  There is no bubble Klause. BMO says its all good. Rock solid real estate in Canada

                  [URL="http://business.financialpost.com/investing/trading-desk/canadian-housing-market-bubble-has-ceased-without-a-crash-landing/wcm/f1e899d9-1f98-4513-94ab-f7a5fce42b82"]http://business.financialpost.com/investing/trading-desk/canadian-housing-market-bubble-has-ceased-without-a-crash-landing/wcm/f1e899d9-1f98-4513-94ab-f7a5fce42b82[/URL]

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                    #45
                    Sort of like there's no bubble in farmland values here in Western Canada. No need to just look what buyer's are paying for homes in the major cities, what are you guys or your neighbor's paying for farm land. When the real estate bubble pops so does the farm land. Interest rate hikes will do it to both!!

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                      #46
                      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
                      Sort of like there's no bubble in farmland values here in Western Canada. No need to just look what buyer's are paying for homes in the major cities, what are you guys or your neighbor's paying for farm land. When the real estate bubble pops so does the farm land. Interest rate hikes will do it to both!!
                      The farmland values are worth it to everyone except those that have to borrow the money and pay for it by farming it and make a "living" on it at the same time....

                      But nope... no bubble.

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                        #47
                        Of course real estate is a big thing now....50000 new people to Canada. ...in a short time period....

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                          #48
                          Originally posted by Klause View Post
                          Euro that Germany uses is way hogher than CAF. Poor excuse.


                          Real reason we lost all those vehicle jobs? Unions. Plain and simple. Demanding too much way to edpe sive to build cars ere so all the cheaper mass production leaves

                          Here's the problem. A million people making $24 an hour are worth far more to the economy than 50,000 making $60. UAW didn't figure that out



                          You need to go live in another country chunky.
                          Klause what about Germany? Higher wages, higher productivity, lots of Unions, good social programs what's your excuse for their success?

                          I used another site for GDP because alot of people on this site dont like Stats Canada. Did you look at the data you sent. Goods producing industries and manufacturing are far larger than mining and energy extraction. Manufacturing on its own is larger.

                          You are overly negative because of your political views. There is little difference from when Harper was in power except the price of commodities went down.

                          How would you manage the economy different? How would you grow the economy any differently considerng that commodity prices are beyond our control? How would you increase manufacturing considering that the CAD is not stabler elative to the US dollar and others?

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