Sickening tactic of the alt-left. re; Charlotte

[dmlfarmer]

What a fascinating post by Burnt to chuckChuck. It raises so many questions that I hope Burnt will answer:
-If neo Nazi's and white supremists are so morally wrong as you state in your post, why are they allowed to gather and demonstrate in public?
-Would these groups have held such rallies if they did not feel empowered and accepted by the current President and government?
-If these groups were not rallying in public, would there have been any anti fascist protesters openly opposing them?
-If child molesters and pedophiles held a public rally in your home town Burnt, would this be acceptable to you?
-Would you join a public demonstration against an open rally of molesters and pedophiles or do you feel they have the right to publically promote their lifestyle?
-And if violence broke out between the two groups and Trudeau said those opposed to the open rally of pedophiles were as much to blame as the pedophiles, would you accept Trudeau's statement as you seem to accept Trump's?
-You asked chuckChuck if he supports child molesters and pedofiles. Perhaps you should answer the same question; especially if you are not willing to oppose a public gathering in your own town of them or if you feel by demonstrating against such a gathering you are as bad as they are.

[sumdumguy]

How many in that crowd do you think were double-dipping?

[burnt]

dmlfarmer - thank you for your post - those are good questions that show some thought put into developing them. But I have to ask - since they actually lead to many of the same conclusions that Trump voiced - are you a Trump supporter? I'd really don't care if you are - each to his own. I just be disappointed you're one of the more rabid ones.

In any case, you seem to employ the words "morality", "feel", "acceptable", etc. quite freely, words which become especially conspicuous in their context of presumption. So you really don't offer anything that can be solidly debated. Let's deal in reality.

The reality is that morality has become so subjective as to be irrelevant. I think you will agree that everything that is legal is not considered to be "moral" by some. Therefore, what is legal can make many people cringe with shame.

Those who engage in that which is legal, but not moral, will have to someday answer for themselves, and not to me. Since there is no absolute standard anymore, whose standard of morality forms your frame of reference?

The reason you need to answer that question becomes clearer when you observe that what was once unthinkable is now celebrated.

Therefore, perhaps you should answer your own questions: If/When, in the not-so-distant future the molesters and pedos demonstrate en masse for "equal rights" are you going to stand against them? And if/when the Prime Minister looks the other way or. heaven forbid, supports and marches with them on the grounds of egalitarianism or because morality has changed, on what will you base your (current, I presume) objection?

Don't think for a minute that it can't happen.

BTW, you did a nice job of conflating the alt-left with those who oppose the abuse of the innocent. That dog won't hunt.

So, thanks for your questions. I'm glad to have stimulated your thinking and thank you for doing the same for me.

[macdon02]

Stand in the streets and get run over.... I've had shit smarter then these dumb ****ers. There a 2% rule about being smarter then what your dealing with. Get off the road if you're gonna protest. Holy shit for stupid. At least no Dakota was smart enough to remove the warning label. It isn't govt responsibility if your an idiot. There won't be a lefty/commie left alive if govt doesn't protect them.

[sawfly1]

macdon that comment says it all
it explains exactly why the right is hated so much

a woman wants to protest a group that shipped 6 million people to gas chambers.
and your comment , she deserved to die

[macdon02]

Saw this had nothing to do with gas chambers. It's a road. You're dense. And it's so little of an issue they have to pay people to get pist. Yeah ... if it's a real issue you wouldn't have to pay people. The majority think the left is bat shit crazy. How can a Muslim mow down 13 or more?? Idk. in Barcelona without reference to nazi or hate crime?

[foragefarmer]

Macdon

"Stand in the streets and get run over.... I've had shit smarter then these dumb ****ers. There a 2% rule about being smarter then what your dealing with. Get off the road if you're gonna protest. Holy shit for stupid."


Your quite the spin doctor on this one! Somehow it's the protester's fault for being run over by a lunatic behind a speeding car with the intent of killing people who don't have the same political view's as his. Even if the protesters were on the sidewalks do you not think this guy had enough brains to steer the car in that direction? He was going to get the job done no matter what. Come on, no matter what side of the political spectrum a person is on, this is just crazy.

How could you even post nonsense like this!!

[the big wheel]

But the skinheads had a permit so they were in the RIGHT! Says the worlds most powerful man!
Sometimes brilliance can be so simple.
Hahahaha

Seriously there are so many issues that are broadly getting lumped into and covered up by false issues that the arguments are all getting blurred.

Do you want to be a good human being respected by the world? Then let every race, ethnicity, culture etc enter your country freely and do what they want.
Sounds good and simple doesn't it?
What a racist statement I just made right?

What concerns me most is we cannot handle the racism and violence that is occurring here now adding more influence of other cultures is going to make this all simpler? Hahaha wow!

The problem is the skinheads take things too far. No there shouldn't be slavery and shouldn't have been ever. However how else can the non skinheads that have legitimate concerns about immigration of Muslims etc have the voice heard? There appears to be no open discussion about these things and in fact is it dangerous to have open discussions? If you were allowed to debate your opponent would it get to the point of fist fights? Which tells me yes it would
In many cases which tells me that it is natural for people of different cultures etc to combat one another. Which tells me that as good as it sounds for us to be all loving and accepting people is it not just human nature that it doesn't work without the problem of how do you resolve the differences issue? Guns or discussion and if you lose by vote does the discussion part end and the guns come out? We are all human we cannot handle as a group mixing too many together without expecting violence to occur history has taught us this. Do I think that right? No I don't. But I can't stop a mob and it scares me to think of these changes that they want us to accept when they the leaders can't handle the situation so there is no way I can.

[farmaholic]

.......sometimes the old adage of "live and let live" simply can't be adhered to.

[tweety]

So do you change the laws allowing demonstration and protest?

Who decides who should or shouldn't get a permit to protest?