Thanks Sask Party and SARM

[oneoff]

Not too many more sleeps before the tax notices should be out down here. IF ANY ONE EXPECTS JUST A 15% OR SO INCREASE THEY ARE OUT BY A FACTOR OF A FEW HUNDRED PERCENT

Mill rate is set at 8.5...assessments went way up...fudge factors for redistributing onto other classes of assessment apparently weren't changed much if at all (don't quote me on that) so municipal taxes won't double; but there will be some $1000 quarters expected which is a very significant increase. That's what "lottery" winners for clay supply of run away road building costs can do; along with 300,000 graders to replace 5000 hour machines still under warranty. Oh yah and 5 digit remunerations and admitted conflicts of interest the auditor noticed that just won't be adequately addressed by council. Not to mention the grand daddy of all conflicts example that are actually supposed to be soon posted to the official municipal website as the adopted minutes of June 8/2017. Thanks only to Ombudsman pressure on council. And you should have seen first hand how easy it was to say "No problem...nothing to hide"
Well maybe council will hold to be accountable starting in the future..say some future September meeting.
It just could be that circulating exact copies of that regular council meeting in June/2017 will expose a clear example in council's own words what really goes on in YOUR public business.

[sumdumguy]

Because they make decisions that effect their own farms, would they be considered in conflict?

[oneoff]

The tax notices just came out And......


the guesS that there would be some $1000 dollar per quarter taxes was off by $7.00 according to current taxes levied.


For example THE municipal portion on one quarter increased by $313.01 above last years $449.20 total municipal tax. That's about 69.68% greater than in 2016. The school tax increased a measly $24.01 over last years $136.28 or a 17.6% increase

I did the calculations on another ag land quarter and got a 69.59% municipal tax jump and a 17.68% school tax increase over the last tax year amounts


Similar results for a different quarter section were 69.65% and 17.68%

ALL STRONGLY HINTING THAT REASSESSMENT WAS A SHAM AS IT ONLY SEEMS TO REFLECT AN ACROSS THE BOARD ASSESSMENT JUMP AND WHICH WAS THEN USED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF BUMPING MUNICIPAL TAXES EXHORBITENTLY...AND COMPARATIVELY SIGNIFICANT (THOUGH SMALLER) INCREASE SCHOOL TAXES OF ABOUT 17.6%

Now many are paying for the "lottery" winnings for clay capping as uttered by one councillor. And remember that relatively few take more out of the local RM coffers compared to all the rest who are net positive tax funding contributors.

[furrowtickler]

Well I going to stick up for some teachers
My wife is a teacher. Works her ass off . Puts up with a lot of little Bastards and mini witch's . She puts in a lot of free time that most don't and helps coach school sports.
Yes there are some useless teachers and ones that abuse the system horribly with stress / sick leave and b/S like that . My wife hates every one of them .
Don't lump all teachers them same , I have seen my wife come home and cry because some ignorant assholes kid needs a severe kick in the ass but teachers can't do anything anymore to discipline these little fukers . And a lot of parents have. zero yes zero responsibility for their kids behaviour.... that's a fact
Sorry for the rant but , good thing your not here tonight or you would get a kick in the ass .

[DaneG]

Market value assessment of farm land only serves to give rm's two avenues to increase taxes, the mill rate and or an increase in assessment due to higher land sales in the area. Sadly if a neighbour sells for a high price my assessment goes up but my land still has the same production to generate dollars to pay a higher tax bill.
Alberta used to and probably still do asses farm land on a productive value so it doesn't change, #4 soil most likely will always be #4 soil and councils there only have the mill rate to manipulate to increase taxes.

[perfecho]

Agree Furrow........

[sumdumguy]

Agree Furrow, I have many fond memories and a few not so fond of my teachers. Many of them made a big difference to my life and the life of our kids. Doesn't help kids when parents show disrespect at home but some are overgrown punks too.

[the big wheel]

The teachers that do their job earn every penny. Kids are different now parents are ass holes so how can you expect better kids. Some are great though there has to be some or no one would do that job.
Their hands are tied as far discipline everyone screems about their rights.
Sister teaches and the things she says that goes on I d never be able to keep my cool. She s there at 7:30 in the morning and stays sometimes past supper on various coaching teams. A lot
More than a 40 hour week. But there are some that do the bare minimum and I wouldn't want my kids in their class either it's like everything else.

[grefer]

Well I going to stick up for some teachers
My wife is a teacher. Works her ass off . Puts up with a lot of little Bastards and mini witch's . She puts in a lot of free time that most don't and helps coach school sports.
Yes there are some useless teachers and ones that abuse the system horribly with stress / sick leave and b/S like that . My wife hates every one of them .
Don't lump all teachers them same , I have seen my wife come home and cry because some ignorant assholes kid needs a severe kick in the ass but teachers can't do anything anymore to discipline these little fukers . And a lot of parents have. zero yes zero responsibility for their kids behaviour.... that's a fact
Sorry for the rant but , good thing your not here tonight or you would get a kick in the ass .

I agree furrow. Most of those kids that are a problem are that way for a reason. Piss poor parents. It is crazy what teachers have to deal with every day at school.
Just paid my taxes and they seemed about the same but now after reading this thread i will need to go look more closely.

[Rareearth]

Agree Furrow!

Infrastructure, shame on those that want to live in the past. It is a job and a big cost to maintain and improve, go forward or your going backwards. For the most part these are all volunteers.

From what being said and implied here is that all board members are crooks, wrong, send the crooks to jail and publicly humiliate them.

School boards, church, town, RM, rinks, pulse/wheat/flax etc, volunteers are our community strength.

Fairness, reasonable, entitled, needed, required, etc are the challenges they have to deal with.

There are only so many dollars to be spent and go around. What are the priorities? For example Stars Ambulance should be publicly funded / government 100%

[Guest]

Well I going to stick up for some teachers
My wife is a teacher. Works her ass off . Puts up with a lot of little Bastards and mini witch's . She puts in a lot of free time that most don't and helps coach school sports.
Yes there are some useless teachers and ones that abuse the system horribly with stress / sick leave and b/S like that . My wife hates every one of them .
Don't lump all teachers them same , I have seen my wife come home and cry because some ignorant assholes kid needs a severe kick in the ass but teachers can't do anything anymore to discipline these little fukers . And a lot of parents have. zero yes zero responsibility for their kids behaviour.... that's a fact
Sorry for the rant but , good thing your not here tonight or you would get a kick in the ass .

couldn't agree more furrow , 2 daughters the same . some of the parents are worse than kids . and sask party has had a hate on for teachers and education for years .i wonder if these helicopter parents realize the damage they are doing raising these totally useless members of society . pretty sad when kids in Saskatoon go to school in trailers but the riders have a new stadium

[grefer]

Ours up 17% over 2016. Average assessment= $119,753
Average Tax per quarter = $1077.

Yay! RM of Ponass lake, great place to own land...hint hint

Farma this includes levies for 2 C&D's and a levy for Quill Lake Watershed.

What is the assessment on your $2500 quarter? ours would have to be $277,978

FJ are you talking assessed value or taxable assessment. My farm average assessed value is $128839 average taxes (municipal and school) is $477. Looks cheap compared to some.

[sumdumguy]

Grefer hit the nail on the head. We should compare taxable assessment with municipal taxes paid. That is the true test of how well your municipal council is handling your money ( not withstanding other externalities - as in oil and potash revenue, acreages, weather conditions that damage roads).

[fjlip]

FJ are you talking assessed value or taxable assessment. My farm average assessed value is $128839 average taxes (municipal and school) is $477. Looks cheap compared to some.

Correct taxable assessment, my mistake we might not all be apples to apples.
Average assessed value= $212255, at $1077, at your tax rate we should be $653.

[farmaholic]

Correct taxable assessment, my mistake we might not all be apples to apples.
Average assessed value= $212255, at $1077, at your tax rate we should be $653.

.........now look who is back living in the Utopian Garden of Eden! ;-0

Farma reporting to you from the Sahara Slum of the Ghetto.