Organic wheat

[tweety]

There is sarcasm somewhere in that statement.

No there isn't.

[Klause]

Once again organic doesn't mean without fertilizer.


Also N can come from a lot of places... Not just synthetic fertilizer... And with regulatory and tax changes coming synthetic N fertilizers will get way more expensive.



Healthy soil is the most important thing. Soils aren't very healthy these days and I can prove it. Pretty blatantly obvious actually.

As far as pulses not being able to supply more N than they use... Well that's actually been disproven internationally but in Canada there's a vested interest to keep you using more and more fert and fungicides because almost all research is market driven and that which isn't gets buried.


U of S has a huge collection of past and active research on soil microbiology that's published and followed all over the world - except here.


I'm not the only one figuring this out... Talk to the guy behind the CleenSeed machine... Commercial farm uses next to no fungicide and very little N... Intercropping.



The US is moving into cover crops finally.... Killing all plant species but the one your growing isn't healthy. If weeds don't go to seed they cause 0 harm let things stay green or plant raddish clover rye or lentils. Keep the ground covered and growing something like nature does.

There's thousands of pages on research showing commercial fungicides are patches for a bigger problem... Pretty simple if some of us have never lost a crop to fuzz or root rots maybe we're onto something?


I'm not saying fungicides are always bad... You need them for lentils if it's wet. Or peas if they get infected.

But fungicides kill a lot of beneficial soil microbes.


So do some herbicides... Glyphosate is an awesome and safe tool but over use causes major destruction in soil systems.

[furrowtickler]

Well done Klause and well said in that last post .
Some have been extremely hypnotized by the chem , fert and machinery players in western Canada - that's what is laughable .

[grassfarmer]

Amen Klause

[hobbyfrmr]

Well done Klause and well said in that last post .
Some have been extremely hypnotized by the chem , fert and machinery players in western Canada - that's what is laughable .

I agree with Klause's insights and action.
Judging from the length and number of grain bags in this area, the high input farmers are laughing all the way to the bank. They are consistently growing huge crops, its hard to stop being an efficient high volume profitable entity. If it aint broke, dont fix it.

[furrowtickler]

Yup I agree , but there are more than one way to skin a cat . That's kinda the whole point I guess .
I would bet those high input guys there are trying stuff outside the bix a bit as well .

[hobbyfrmr]

Yup I agree , but there are more than one way to skin a cat . That's kinda the whole point I guess .
I would bet those high input guys there are trying stuff outside the bix a bit as well .

Yes I am sure as well. Soybeans, Quinoa Hemp Lentils and corn are all being grown. They are definitely working for success.

[furrowtickler]

A lot of very progressive farms in that area for sure 👍

[Stampsguy]

You're definitely on the right track Klaus. My son has us trying cover crops and it definitely is improving the soil. Had a well know soil scientist look at it last year and confirm it. It's taking an older guy like me time to realize that soil needs to have something growing on it all the time with various species and root systems. Been just experimenting with one quarter so far. Might eventually not need fert. Even better when cattle can graze it.