Protein discounts/premiums changing today.

[furrowtickler]

Good points .
Same go for pulses .
There is info on characteristics in pea varieties that has not been shared to farmers as well that plant breeders are reluctant to release . We need that as producers as well .
Some of those characteristics would shelve some new varieties fairly quick .

[Agvocate]

If 15.5 pro is $1.30 premium, sell September/October 2018 2 CWRS 15.5. Odds are protein will be higher, as everyone will hammer the N to wheat b/c they didn't like the discounts this year. Only way for the spreads to go next year is narrower. When you deliver 13.5 pro next fall, if spreads are more historical, 5 cents a half for example, you get a 20 cent discount. Don't think every company will let you do it, some may have different spreads for new crop pricing, but it's worth looking into.

[Kinger]

Gonna be a low pro year for all of Canada I think this year.

If you need to move wheat try and work out a deal for blended protein from all you deliveries. Likely will work out better. Premiums look really good but the discount down from the base grade protein most graincos use will be even worse. Try avoiding them at all costs.

All comes down to the net price per bushel.

[bucket]

Interesting that protein tests higher the day they are loading trains or the 3rd party inspection guys are in house.....


Those machines are reset lower regularly...


Neighbor sent same sample ....one to cgc one to grainco. ...out by a full point ....can be a big deal....

Cgc isn't doing random checks to make sure grading is done properly.....why?

[Kinger]

CGC does check to ensure grading is done properly at elevators.

If you feel your protein isn't right you can ask them to do it again or if you want you can submit it to the CGC for a grade dispute. They grade the sample and what they grade it as stands and what the elevator has to bill it as. Be it a protein or grade issue.

[farmaholic]

Funny.... when I take something that isn't mine it's called theft.

I have an idea were my protein should be because of taking part in the Harvest Sample Program.

If I want even more details on smaller lots I can take it to the CGC or a third party grader and get a more detailed account of what I have. Let them know YOU KNOW what you have.

Why would we even be having this discussion. And like someone else said.... there isn't much for them to pick apart this year so the flavor of the day is Px levels and the premiums and discounts.

Is there life after farming?

[ajl]

Funny.... when I take something that isn't mine it's called theft.

I have an idea were my protein should be because of taking part in the Harvest Sample Program.

If I want even more details on smaller lots I can take it to the CGC or a third party grader and get a more detailed account of what I have. Let them know YOU KNOW what you have.

Why would we even be having this discussion. And like someone else said.... there isn't much for them to pick apart this year so the flavor of the day is Px levels and the premiums and discounts.

Is there life after farming?

Answer to the last question is no. Make sure you can do retirement after you quit. Why do farmers farm? A:nothing else to do. 70% of so called ag careers are those sales huckster positions that call you during harvest to book inputs for next year. That fact will sober you up quickly.

[furrowtickler]

Hmmm , that's a stretch there AJL .
The skill set of most farmers would blow away most average works by a long way .

[farmaholic]

After being on this side this long there is no way I could work in the Ag Industry. One thing that fails me is how anyone born and raised on a farm could work in certain occupations in the Ag Industry.

[wmoebis]

CGC does check to ensure grading is done properly at elevators.

If you feel your protein isn't right you can ask them to do it again or if you want you can submit it to the CGC for a grade dispute. They grade the sample and what they grade it as stands and what the elevator has to bill it as. Be it a protein or grade issue.

How do they check? I told CGC of a few elevators that were doing dockage wrong their reply was send us the samplees with $50 and we will assess it. No check up on elev even tho it is illegal.

[LWeber]

How do they check? I told CGC of a few elevators that were doing dockage wrong their reply was send us the samplees with $50 and we will assess it. No check up on elev even tho it is illegal.

Lifted from their website:

the Canadian Grain Commission’s strategic outcome to ensure that, “Canada’s grain is safe, reliable, and marketable and Canadian grain producers are properly compensated for grain deliveries to licensed grain companies.”

[wmoebis]

Lifted from their website:

the Canadian Grain Commission’s strategic outcome to ensure that, “Canada’s grain is safe, reliable, and marketable and Canadian grain producers are properly compensated for grain deliveries to licensed grain companies.”

Yes and The Grain Act clearly states it is illegal to misrepresent grade or dkg. And the penalties for doing so. Do you think they have been doing a good job of upholding mandate?

[LWeber]

Yes and The Grain Act clearly states it is illegal to misrepresent grade or dkg. And the penalties for doing so. Do you think they have been doing a good job of upholding mandate?

they have sucked ever since the assistant commissioners were jettisoned from regional offices

[wmoebis]

they have sucked ever since the assistant commissioners were jettisoned from regional offices

Thank You! I totally agree. We need them or similar back.

[ajl]

Hmmm , that's a stretch there AJL .
The skill set of most farmers would blow away most average works by a long way .

That is what farmers like to think but reality today is that there is a lot of competition out there as highly skilled individuals have been laid off by the energy industry. Unfortunately, as my operation is small, I have to pay attention to the job market and find there is much less opportunity out there than most farmers think.