Why Farm in Canada

[Stampsguy]

You're right on Klause with your comments. I've been around long enough to see all the freedoms we've lost, all the values we've lost, all the rights we've lost. Were becoming more socialist by the day but that is exactly what Grass and some on here want.

[LEP]

After reading the posts on this thread , I would say don't give up hope. There were many years I wondered about my future. But hang in there, if it was easy everyone would do it.

I would also say keep posting like you do. Everyone needs exposure to new ideas even though you get the responses from the chorus of grumpy old men.

If you are really concerned then get involved in the decision making. You have lots of good ideas.

[farming101]

Flatlined?

[Klause]

Flatlined?
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That graph is fakek news.


As isgrassfarmer's NFU link.


[URL="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160525/dq160525a-eng.htm"]http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160525/dq160525a-eng.htm[/URL]

[LEP]

Klause, If you actually look at realized net income which is what the graph shows, it is correct.

[Klause]

Klause, If you actually look at realized net income which is what the graph shows, it is correct.

My bad. You're right. I couldn't count zeroes!


Gonna bring that up with the NFU.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I've spent quite a bit of time in Russia, and the idea of moving there to farm has come up. The trouble with doing business there is you have to be careful whose toes you step on, or you may just disappear, it happens regularly. Corruption at every level, adds huge costs to any endeavor. They call the government legalized mafia. Most farms have an armed guard at the gate, same thing if they leave equipment in the field overnight, those are costs we don't have. No government subsidized crop insurance, and not much for other government programs. They have the same complaints as you hear here, about markets and weather, and BTO's and equipment costs( Ruble lost half of it's value again a couple of years back, that makes imported equipment awfully expensive). If someone wants your property for development(including government) they will find a way to steal it from you. Rural roads are disgraceful to non existent, neighbors will drive across your crop to get to theirs, it is the only way. But the soil is incredible(Black sea region), labor is cheap, Rostelmach combines and Kirovets tractors will get the job done.

As for land costs around the world, all the factors and risks already discussed are already baked into the price. There are no bargains,unless you have inside information on the next government coup.

[sumdumguy]

I showed this thread with the depressing graphs to a non-framer. He said this topic should actual be "why farm at all?"

[grassfarmer]

Klause, If you actually look at realized net income which is what the graph shows, it is correct.

Very funny, now you just need to superimpose the debt for the same period which would require the graph being 10 times taller to accommodate that line. You can manipulate the graphs but it doesn't change the fact that debt to net farm income ratios are horrible.

[farming101]

I'm not debating that debt is many times higher than years ago.
The scale used in the chart gives the impression that income has flatlined that's all