Why Farm in Canada

[grassfarmer]

Klause, If you actually look at realized net income which is what the graph shows, it is correct.

Very funny, now you just need to superimpose the debt for the same period which would require the graph being 10 times taller to accommodate that line. You can manipulate the graphs but it doesn't change the fact that debt to net farm income ratios are horrible.

[farming101]

I'm not debating that debt is many times higher than years ago.
The scale used in the chart gives the impression that income has flatlined that's all

[grassfarmer]

I'm not debating that debt is many times higher than years ago.
The scale used in the chart gives the impression that income has flatlined that's all

Which it has relative to the debt/gross farm revenue/value of exports/retail price lines.

[fjlip]

A world commodity in "adequate" supply has no price relationship to consumer good it ends up in.
Primary producer gets as little as possible, only enough to keep enough producers chasing the carrot to ensure a little too much supply. That way every one happy other than primary producers, who are not valued?

[farming101]

I found this of interest:

[pourfarmer]

I found this of interest:
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That paints the picture very well. Can you show debt also?

[farming101]

Total debt for all types of farms across Canada is in the first chart

[pourfarmer]

Total debt for all types of farms across Canada is in the first chart

I obviously need another coffee. I missed that first one.

[grassfarmer]

A world commodity in "adequate" supply has no price relationship to consumer good it ends up in.
Primary producer gets as little as possible, only enough to keep enough producers chasing the carrot to ensure a little too much supply. That way every one happy other than primary producers, who are not valued?

While that is true in general terms it is by no means a static scenario. Look at this graph showing the increase in spread between farm-gate and retail beef price over a relatively short period. It will be repeated pretty much across every commodity. That is a bigger issue than a small % of farmers having to pay some more tax because they chose to incorporate yet nobody is talking about it.

[Grahamp]

I think Krause makes a good point. We have farmed forever in Canada, but when I think of these changes I don't know if it is worth the aggravation. One of the things that keeps me going/motivated during the hard times has been the knowledge that I can pass down something to my kids, or if they don't want to farm we could rent out the land when we get older and spend time travelling etc. Take both of those away and I honestly would consider doing something else. I don't think I am courageous enough to go farm in another country but I would consider changing careers. Stop greasing everybody else's wheels.

[grassfarmer]

Nothing to stop you passing your farm onto the kids or renting it out.

[sumdumguy]

The queen of England owns every acre of land anyway so quit fighting over it.