Why Farm in Canada

[seldomseen]

I just hope the lunatic fringe never get back into power in Saskatchewan or I may be forced to move.

As for Klause I just hope you stay. You are the kind of people Saskatchewan needs and I like your agronomic topics that you bring up here.

[blackpowder]

If I may.
Upon listening to friends of various ages and remembering myself at certain ages.
Sometimes the flavor of our angst belies our age, hence perspective.
Klause, I'm on your side with everything you said, but I've been up to my neck in shit for so long here I'm not startin over.
A perspective story.
When an elderly South Korean peasant was asked if concerned about nukes. Replied that if she didnt tend her garden she would die. If nukes fell they all die. So she must continue to tend her garden.

Regarding other countries. Never been to Oz. But other than it(except for the *** bugs & snakes) and US and us, not interested. You ever watch Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid?

Regarding the end of days. No cycle is new. You will be dead before this one plays out.

[grassfarmer]

Is this graph real? In the past 50 years farm debt has increased by approx 19 times and net farm income has increased 2 times?
I would have to ass ume farmers have signed over most of the equity to the lenders in order to function. If this graph is real, lenders are succeeding very well and the farmers not so much.
Now you have me confused!!

Yep, lots of graphs like that from different sources but one thing is constant - the net farm income flatlining along the bottom of the graph since the 1970s.

[URL="http://www.nfu.ca/sites/www.nfu.ca/files/farm_income_debt.pdf"]http://http://www.nfu.ca/sites/www.nfu.ca/files/farm_income_debt.pdf[/URL]

[furrowtickler]

Keep posting different agronomy , that's where new ideas are born .

[Stampsguy]

You're right on Klause with your comments. I've been around long enough to see all the freedoms we've lost, all the values we've lost, all the rights we've lost. Were becoming more socialist by the day but that is exactly what Grass and some on here want.

[LEP]

After reading the posts on this thread , I would say don't give up hope. There were many years I wondered about my future. But hang in there, if it was easy everyone would do it.

I would also say keep posting like you do. Everyone needs exposure to new ideas even though you get the responses from the chorus of grumpy old men.

If you are really concerned then get involved in the decision making. You have lots of good ideas.

[farming101]

Flatlined?

[Klause]

Flatlined?
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That graph is fakek news.


As isgrassfarmer's NFU link.


[URL="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160525/dq160525a-eng.htm"]http://www.statcan.gc.ca/daily-quotidien/160525/dq160525a-eng.htm[/URL]

[LEP]

Klause, If you actually look at realized net income which is what the graph shows, it is correct.

[Klause]

Klause, If you actually look at realized net income which is what the graph shows, it is correct.

My bad. You're right. I couldn't count zeroes!


Gonna bring that up with the NFU.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I've spent quite a bit of time in Russia, and the idea of moving there to farm has come up. The trouble with doing business there is you have to be careful whose toes you step on, or you may just disappear, it happens regularly. Corruption at every level, adds huge costs to any endeavor. They call the government legalized mafia. Most farms have an armed guard at the gate, same thing if they leave equipment in the field overnight, those are costs we don't have. No government subsidized crop insurance, and not much for other government programs. They have the same complaints as you hear here, about markets and weather, and BTO's and equipment costs( Ruble lost half of it's value again a couple of years back, that makes imported equipment awfully expensive). If someone wants your property for development(including government) they will find a way to steal it from you. Rural roads are disgraceful to non existent, neighbors will drive across your crop to get to theirs, it is the only way. But the soil is incredible(Black sea region), labor is cheap, Rostelmach combines and Kirovets tractors will get the job done.

As for land costs around the world, all the factors and risks already discussed are already baked into the price. There are no bargains,unless you have inside information on the next government coup.

[sumdumguy]

I showed this thread with the depressing graphs to a non-framer. He said this topic should actual be "why farm at all?"