U.S. Slaps Duties On Canadian - Raising Trade Tensions

[chuckChuck]

What farm subsidy am I receiving from the federal government?

Agriinvest, Agristability, 1/2 crop insurance premiums. Farm fuel tax breaks, You may not use any of those program, but most farmers have or still do.

[grassfarmer]

The $300,000,000.00 Trudeau just recently gave BBDb wasn't to help the company or the workers, it was to aid the Liberal Party in getting MP's re-elected in Quebec.
Using money from the Have Provinces, and of course,,,,don't forget added debt.
Added debt,,,,just to get re-elected!

What of the $350,000,000.00 the Harper Government spent in 2008? Not saying it's right or wrong but to imply this is a Liberal policy created by Trudeau is false - Bombardier is a long running saga of state sponsorship.

[seabass]

Absolutely right Danny. Taking our money to buy votes. We deal with a company out of Quebec and there sales rep even admits that alot of their infrastructure is funded by us. New bridges and highway off ramps paid for by transfer payments. We can't get our shitty highways fixed because the money to do so goes there. Don't matter which party they all gotta suck up to them. Only way to end it is to separate. Sad

[farmaholic]

Why do we have to leave the Dominion.....give them what they were asking for in the past....amputate the "Cancer".....and those parts that want to stay should be given the choice....if the Separatists don't like that....let them "sort it out" within their own borders.

[Klause]

Agriinvest, Agristability, 1/2 crop insurance premiums. Farm fuel tax breaks, You may not use any of those program, but most farmers have or still do.

Crop Insurance is a myth.

Look at how much of the SCIC money is being diverted to GRF. We pay 100% of our own premiums, plus pay into the provincial coffers. Fancy accounting, but it is not subsidized.


Fuel isn't a subsidy. Fuel taxes are used to maintain roads and bridges. Farmers, Fishers, Loggers, boats… planes all pay less taxes because the fuel IS NOT USED ON A F***ING ROAD.


I'd honestly think you'd be smarter than that.


As far as AgriInvest/AgriStab… yeah ok, they might be a "subsidy". Wouldn't know, not in them, never was, never will be.

[grassfarmer]

Fuel isn't a subsidy. Fuel taxes are used to maintain roads and bridges. Farmers, Fishers, Loggers, boats… planes all pay less taxes because the fuel IS NOT USED ON A F***ING ROAD.

Since when? I along with most other farmers own a farm truck, used dyed fuel and drive on the highways. Heck many of the farm wives haul their kids around the country to hockey and horse events on farm fuel.

[furrowtickler]

Well said Klause 👍👍

[Klause]

Since when? I along with most other farmers own a farm truck, used dyed fuel and drive on the highways. Heck many of the farm wives haul their kids around the country to hockey and horse events on farm fuel.

Well you are special… we knew that.

Sask doesn't have dyed gas anymore… and what you're doing is actually breaking the law. Dyed fuel is for FARM USE ONLY.

By the way, grid roads are maintained through your RM property taxes… not fuel taxes, so you're not being "subsidized" driving down grid roads to your fields… a different story if you're vacationing with your pickup and burning dyed…. again, illegal. So is going to work and burning dyed fuel.


Manitoba cops used to stop pickups and cars and dip the tanks… It was a pretty hefty fine if you were running dyed when you shouldn't have been.

[Klause]

Since when? I along with most other farmers own a farm truck, used dyed fuel and drive on the highways. Heck many of the farm wives haul their kids around the country to hockey and horse events on farm fuel.

Also, when I look at my fuel usage… we burnt a total of 27,900 litres of fuel this year. 3150 was gas. 472 was through card lock (farm use). Rest was all bought at a gas station like any consumer. That means we burnt over 24,000 litres of diesel on the farm… in the field… makes the gas you burn on the road extremely marginal, many farms have a way larger ratio than that, and we'll probably burn another 8000 or more to finish the year in the field.

And before you start… our semi is commercially apportioned so there's no dyed fuel to haul grain to the elevator either…. even though it's 90% grid roads to the elevator.

Again, NOT A SUBSIDY.

[farmaholic]

Doesn't anyone remember the 20% dyed fuel usage that is subject to excise tax in the last Sask budget.

Edit: the level of government and specific tax might be wrong in the statement above....but something changed somewhere to account for road use of dyed diesel and elimination of "farm" gas tax exceptions.