The difference, East , west

[furrowtickler]

Canada is a great country but ...
it comes down to what's happening right now , and part of many threads ...
The "silver spoons" in Eastern , or should I say central Canada think it's their birthright to take from others .
The "workers" out west just want to keep their fair share of what they work so hard for .
Does that sum it up ??

[woodland]

And the government is just the "tool" to accomplish this.

[grassfarmer]

If you want to talk about Canada and who the workers are:
Canada @19 million workforce
Ontario/Quecbec workforce 12 million
the Prairie provinces workforce 3.6 million (AB, SK and MB combined -2.4 of that in AB)
so less than 1 in 5 of Canada's workforce is located in the prairies which should shatter any illusions that we do all the work for the country.

[SASKFARMER3]

Go back to Scotland you Useless Twit.

Yes math is true we have Less in Western Canada.

But since confederation the West has fed the East.

Read the history books and see who controls canada. Its the East over the west.

We send money East they send programs west.

Grass your useless twit of a Pm is doing exactly what his useless father did years ago.

[grassfarmer]

We send money East they send programs west.

Yep, typical Government - they take money in, they pay it back out. Glad to see you recognizing Government spending in the west.

[SASKFARMER3]

No i said they give us programs. Its not spending its useless programs with all the paper pushers in East and dribbling money out west.

Grass give it up your idiot is destroying this country just like his father did.

[furrowtickler]

By silver spoons , I means the likes of JT , you know the people who never really work . Not the average joe worker as you pointed out . Obviously that's not the case but spin it any way you wish grass .
This is aimed up best by JT and his buddy right now. Thus the silver spoons from Cemtral Canada .

[chuckChuck]

Not again. Another giant whining match about the east. Tiresome at best. As if the only guys who actually work hard, contribute to the country, and pay taxes live in western Canada?
We know you don't like the current leader. But continually making that the issue?
Give everybody a break and move on to something of substance.

[Hamloc]

Not again. Another giant whining match about the east. Tiresome at best. As if the only guys who actually work hard, contribute to the country, and pay taxes live in western Canada?
We know you don't like the current leader. But continually making that the issue?
Give everybody a break and move on to something of substance.

Ok Chuck2 you won't answer my question on nitrogen trifluoride emissions from solar maybe you will answer this question. The Liberal government is looking for revenue, why attack business with a proposal that is essentially class warfare for a meagre $250-500 million when you could raise the GST one point and bring in $6 billion? Please explain.

[Klause]

Wow Chuck and grass. You guys have so little clue it's scary.


GDP per capita:
Alberta: $78,140
Sask: $70,207
NWT: $109196
Yukon: $72,676

Quebec: $46,151
Ontario: $55,352

New Brunswick: $43,831


A worker in western Canada is worth twice as much as a worker in eastern Canada. It's been that way since confederation.

What I don't understand is why somebody who never studied Canadian history or politics or culture is arguing these points, eh grass?

If anybody has the cartoon from te 1920s of the cow of Canada with the west feeding and central Canada milking... Post it I'll post the story that went with it. Haha

[redleaf]

Tried to post pic of cow but doesn't seem to be working

https://www.google.ca/search?q=canada+cartoon+cow+east+west&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari#imgrc=2AH5Gk3SrXnAsM:

[redleaf]

Trying again.

[littledoggie]

Not quite the one I'm thinking of, but I can't find it. It depicts the cow eating in the west, getting milked in central Canada and shitting on the east.

[seldomseen]

The problem with Canada: Its just way too spread out and regions are so different. A small busy area in the center that controls the rest. Geographically no mans land between the busy center and the area that has all the resources. A couple of winters ago a bridge went out on the trans Canada and for weeks you weren't able to drive from one region to the next. Prairie people are so different from eastern urban people that control us. Canadian prairie people are very similar to Midwestern states people and share the same geography and political views.

[Klause]

Very good article that sums it up...

[URL="http://www.canadianbusiness.com/lifestyle/western-alienation-a-brief-history/"]http://www.canadianbusiness.com/lifestyle/western-alienation-a-brief-history/[/URL]
Western Canada was a "lesser" partner all along. From the above:

Under the terms of Confederation, the original provinces entered with full control of their own resources. The new provinces that were eventually carved out of the West, however, did not start out with the same rights. When first Manitoba and later Alberta and Saskatchewan were created, Ottawa retained control of their natural goods. The federal government believed, probably correctly at the time, that the new provinces lacked the capacity to fully exploit their lands. But politicians, especially from the Maritime provinces, were also of the view that their taxpayers had bought and paid for the western timber, farmlands, coal and later oil and gas with the payout to the Hudson’s Bay Co.


The Prairie provinces, then, felt they had come into Confederation as second-class citizens. And the resentment this bred has never really gone away. Through the early part of the 1900s, successive western premiers battled successive prime ministers for resource control, mostly to no avail. At times, they struggled even to be noticed.

Janigan describes a heated first ministers meeting in 1913, in which the three Prairie premiers teamed up for the first time to demand resource control from Prime Minister Robert Borden. It was a watershed moment for the West. For Borden, it barely registered. (The entire conference, Janigan notes, went completely unmentioned in his memoirs.) After another disastrous conference in 1918, Ottawa began to acknowledge that the western provinces might benefit from having some control over their resources. Still, a 1920 report prepared for the new prime minister, Arthur Meighen, suggested key commodities like coal, oil, gas and timber remain under the federal thumb.