The difference, East , west

[chuckChuck]

Wow Chuck and grass. You guys have so little clue it's scary.


GDP per capita:
Alberta: $78,140
Sask: $70,207
NWT: $109196
Yukon: $72,676

Quebec: $46,151
Ontario: $55,352

New Brunswick: $43,831


A worker in western Canada is worth twice as much as a worker in eastern Canada. It's been that way since confederation.

What I don't understand is why somebody who never studied Canadian history or politics or culture is arguing these points, eh grass?

If anybody has the cartoon from te 1920s of the cow of Canada with the west feeding and central Canada milking... Post it I'll post the story that went with it. Haha

Klaus, GDP doesn't tell the whole story. So if I am sitting on a pile of oil, gas, potash, gold, uranium does that mean I am smarter, I work harder and better than everyone else? Your arguments are shallow. A mile wide and a inch deep. There are numerous regional differences in most countries. The grass is always greener on the other side.

[chuckChuck]

Ok Chuck2 you won't answer my question on nitrogen trifluoride emissions from solar maybe you will answer this question. The Liberal government is looking for revenue, why attack business with a proposal that is essentially class warfare for a meagre $250-500 million when you could raise the GST one point and bring in $6 billion? Please explain.

I am in favour of raising the gst. As far as the tax changes I think the problem is they are using a broad brush. It is a complex issue. Some advantages need to be tightened up. Ag likely needs special treatment because of weather risk and intergenerational transfers. They should pursue all the offshore tax avoidance by wealthy Canadians first.

Solar pollution needs to be taken care of. As well as all the pollution from dirty coal. Coal is far worse because of the scale. I am glad that you take environmental and pollution issues seriously.

[burnt]

I am in favour of raising the gst. As far as the tax changes I think the problem is they are using a broad brush. It is a complex issue. Some advantages need to be tightened up. Ag likely needs special treatment because of weather risk and intergenerational transfers. They should pursue all the offshore tax avoidance by wealthy Canadians first.

Solar pollution needs to be taken care of. As well as all the pollution from dirty coal. Coal is far worse because of the scale. I am glad that you take environmental and pollution issues seriously.

chucky, do you take wealthy Canadians Trudeau's and Morneau's offshore tax avoidance schemes seriously as well?

Or is it okay for them, since their are wealthy, old stock Liberal fortunes?

What's your guess or assumption on this one?

[Klause]

Klaus, GDP doesn't tell the whole story. So if I am sitting on a pile of oil, gas, potash, gold, uranium does that mean I am smarter, I work harder and better than everyone else? Your arguments are shallow. A mile wide and a inch deep. There are numerous regional differences in most countries. The grass is always greener on the other side.

You're right it doesn't... However Ontario and Quebec have gold, zinc, moly, copper, Nat gas, and even tar sands up north. Not developing resources you have vs doing so. Canada is a rich country but run by Ontario and Quebec... Considering they wanted to help themselves to the rest of the countries resources for the last hundred years, they will continue to want to do so for the next hundred. I.e. NEP, equalization payments, and now this small biz attack.

[grassfarmer]

Wow Chuck and grass. You guys have so little clue it's scary.

GDP per capita:
Alberta: $78,140
Sask: $70,207

Quebec: $46,151

Which given the size of the workforces quoted earlier shows that AB and SK combined just manage to surpass Quebec or slightly better than half of Ontario's productivity. You're not the big shots you think you are.

[Klause]

Which given the size of the workforces quoted earlier shows that AB and SK combined just manage to surpass Quebec or slightly better than half of Ontario's productivity. You're not the big shots you think you are.

Do some homework then post.


Alberta total GDP is higher than Quebec s

7.9 vs 3.9 million people.


The rest of your post is equally flawed

[grassfarmer]

Do some homework then post.


Alberta total GDP is higher than Quebec s

7.9 vs 3.9 million people.


The rest of your post is equally flawed

Au contraire buddy, as they might say in Quebec. From the same table you took your earlier per capita GDP from:

GDP Million$ Cdn 2015
Quebec 380,972
Alberta 326,433

Population 2015
Quebec 8.25 million
Alberta 4.17 million

[Klause]

Au contraire buddy, as they might say in Quebec. From the same table you took your earlier per capita GDP from:

GDP Million$ Cdn 2015
Quebec 380,972
Alberta 326,433

Population 2015
Quebec 8.25 million
Alberta 4.17 million

Lol.


But no. [URL="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/econ15-eng.htm"]http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/econ15-eng.htm[/URL]

[chuckChuck]

Klaus. Where are the stats on Ontarios GDP and per capita? You seem to avoid the elephant In the room.
Small populations plus large resource sectors in the west. So what is your plan once the resources are depleted? Spending one time resource revenue on day to day operations is a fools paradise. Norway figured this out. Take away oil and gas and western Canada's fortunes look a lot less exciting. I would argue that the boom and bust resource sector had been a drag on innovation in the west. hard to start a business when everyone wants $30 an hour.

[grassfarmer]

Lol.


But no. [URL="http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/econ15-eng.htm"]http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/econ15-eng.htm[/URL]

Maybe study it closer - they are the same figures I quoted for 2015. For the 5 years quoted on your link Quebec has topped Alberta GDP 4 out of the 5 years - over the 5 year period their GDP averaged 10% higher than Alberta. Alberta topped Quebec only in 2014 - by a whopping 0.0042% - can you say "statistically insignificant"?

A similar argument could be made about Saudi Arabia. Huge per capita GDP compared to India, Somalia or any of the other countries they bring migrant workers in from. Are the Saudis smarter or harder working than those other countries? - no they just happen to be sitting on top of huge oil reserves. Same thing with Canada, Alberta and their migrant Newfies. Luck of the draw where the oil/gas reserves are.

[westernvicki]

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/the-size-of-canadas-underground-economy/article30522066/?ref=http://www.theglobeandmail.com&

Interesting to note the underground economy in Canada: Quebec scores the highest, Alberta brings in the bottom end.

[farmaholic]

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Trying again.

......it could be worse for Western Canada, which end of the cow is the Maritimes on?

[shtferbrains]

Hey there Chuckup, I've always wondered how much you get paid to be a schill for the LPC.

Can you make a living at it?

Or are you so enthusiastic you do it for you own Liberal credit card with a $5 day limit?

Do you know how to put a bug up anybodys ass that disagrees with you?

How much do you get for your enthusiasim.

How long will you stay before disapearing forever like all the others.

[grassfarmer]

Hey there Chuckup, I've always wondered how much you get paid to be a schill for the LPC.

Can you make a living at it?

Or are you so enthusiastic you do it for you own Liberal credit card with a $5 day limit?

Do you know how to put a bug up anybodys ass that disagrees with you?

How much do you get for your enthusiasim.

How long will you stay before disapearing forever like all the others.

LOL- Says the person who has only made 11 posts in total since joining in June 2017 versus chuckChuck who has made 1218 posts since 2006. Shtferbrains is indeed an apt user name!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Hey there Chuckup, I've always wondered how much you get paid to be a schill for the LPC.

Can you make a living at it?

Or are you so enthusiastic you do it for you own Liberal credit card with a $5 day limit?

Do you know how to put a bug up anybodys ass that disagrees with you?

How much do you get for your enthusiasim.

How long will you stay before disapearing forever like all the others.

I can't figure out why he keeps coming back to try to educate the rest of us, it seems like a lot of effort for very little appreciation in return. Have to admire the persistence. Has anyone here been converted to his point of view, is it working?