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[JACKFLASH]

TOM4CWB

I have heard Ontario wheat has quality issues,from what we are accustomed to, but my ignorance has opened another can of worms.
It certainly is unfair that the wheat board has two sets of rule books,and we have to the thick one.
I wish I was a fly on the wall in a gov't boardroom when they were written way back in the 1940's. To try and understand their logic...

[TOM4CWB]

Jackflash;

I wonder if you understand that there is CWRS west of Thunderbay, and CERS East of Thunderbay.

THAT IS RIGHT, two totally different grading systems, with very different standards in these grades.

I am not saying that Ontario Wheat is substandard, just like a DNS 14% US graded wheat is not substandard, just that many years neither of these wheat products could be graded as a 1CWRS.

[JACKFLASH]

TOM4CWB

Thank-you for the information. I guess in the end the wheat, mills into a adequate flour. The baker's can produce products which meet the expectations of the consumer.
I took a tour of the Monsanto bi-tech factory in 99 in St.Louis. One of the sidelines was a trip to Budweiser brewery. The barley sample the maltsers showed us, that they were using, I wouldn't feed my cows.
We all know the specs that have to be met to obtain the selection of malt barley in Western Canada. Huge variation....

[axiom]

From everything I've been reading, tom4cwb, the Board aren't supposed be playing by different rules. From what I understand, there's one rulebook called the CWB Act, and the Wheat Board's been playing out rules from the bottom of the deck. What do you think?

[axiom]

I guess it was Jackflash talking about rules. Sorry.

[JACKFLASH]

Axiom

You bet they are dealing from the bottom. Sure there is the CWB act in place, but by reading the threads over the past two years nobody seems to have the complete handle on the act.The CWB seems to be one step ahead all the time, making amendments.
Funny using our money to making tougher to grow and market wheat thru the board, and heaven forbid elsewhere.

[JACKFLASH]

Axiom

You bet they are dealing from the bottom. Sure there is the CWB act in place, but by reading the threads over the past two years nobody seems to have the complete handle on the act.The CWB seems to be one step ahead all the time, making amendments.
Funny using our money to making tougher to grow and market wheat thru the board, and heaven forbid elsewhere.

[JACKFLASH]

Axiom

You bet they are dealing from the bottom. Sure there is the CWB act in place, but by reading the threads over the past two years nobody seems to have the complete handle on the act.The CWB seems to be one step ahead all the time, making amendments.
Funny using our money to making tougher to grow and market wheat thru the board, and heaven forbid elsewhere.

[TOM4CWB]

Axiom;

The Magician (CWB) is an expert at the slight of hand, faster than the eye can see moves.

The CWB has unlimited resourses (the CDN gov. finances and backs it if the pool accounts run out of our money) and in Canada's new legal system the judges do whatever the Minister Responsible for the CWB (Solicitor General) or PM's office tell them to do.

Amazing that in 2003 that the slavery of grain farmers is legal in Western Canada, where as before the first half of the 20th Century, the SUpreme Court of Canada used to say we had property rights!

I am not quite sure how the constitution of Canada was changed to take our rights and freedoms away, maybe someone could explain the constitutional amendment that turned us into slaves?

[axiom]

Well Jackfish, I sure as heck haven't seen any ammendments you talk about the CWB having made, that I think changes anything worthwhile. From what I see, the CWB decided a long, long time ago to refuse to give any farmer out West, a license, and they've been sticking with that path, and only because they got away with it. We've been pretty much a bunch of sheep out here, I figure.


The big big trouble they have is how do they come up with reason to give to the judge to say they ignored what the law says? After all, the directors can give all kinds of reasons to farmers why they don't give us licenses. YOu've heard it a million times... "it will hurt the pools" or "That bug...r is greedy", but the judge is going to look at the law and I figure the Wheat Board is sunk when they start sputtering to a judge that the law doesn't matter because they are BIG directors who make up their own law.We need to press them on it.They've had a pretty easy run on things. Con-agra didn't have a license either, and they won't be spending time in jail, I'll bet. That's a pretty long speil at coffee this morning!

[Dyno]

Hi "eatmorewheat" a couple of questions for you, since you are now using the forum to advertise your flour mill commercially.
1. Are you licensed and bonded with the CGC, your website doesn't seem to make that very obvious?
2. Why don't you open a bunch more mills across this country? If you can afford to pay much more for wheat than the others presently pay (and you are profitable, which I am sure you are judging by the bids on your website), then logic would dictate expansion. The two commercial flour mills presently based in SK are thriving right now, by the way, I am sure they would welcome some strong competition.

[Everest]

Dyno:

You seem to have a bit of edginess and sarcasm in your comments. Is there something wrong with posting bids or offers in a commodity marketing bulletin board? Seems perfectly normal to me.

And hey, instead of taunting, why don’t YOU build a bunch of flour mills? You imply that it would be easy. Do you know something the rest of us don’t?