HWSW buyer

[axiom]

From everything I've been reading, tom4cwb, the Board aren't supposed be playing by different rules. From what I understand, there's one rulebook called the CWB Act, and the Wheat Board's been playing out rules from the bottom of the deck. What do you think?

[axiom]

I guess it was Jackflash talking about rules. Sorry.

[JACKFLASH]

Axiom

You bet they are dealing from the bottom. Sure there is the CWB act in place, but by reading the threads over the past two years nobody seems to have the complete handle on the act.The CWB seems to be one step ahead all the time, making amendments.
Funny using our money to making tougher to grow and market wheat thru the board, and heaven forbid elsewhere.

[JACKFLASH]

Axiom

You bet they are dealing from the bottom. Sure there is the CWB act in place, but by reading the threads over the past two years nobody seems to have the complete handle on the act.The CWB seems to be one step ahead all the time, making amendments.
Funny using our money to making tougher to grow and market wheat thru the board, and heaven forbid elsewhere.

[JACKFLASH]

Axiom

You bet they are dealing from the bottom. Sure there is the CWB act in place, but by reading the threads over the past two years nobody seems to have the complete handle on the act.The CWB seems to be one step ahead all the time, making amendments.
Funny using our money to making tougher to grow and market wheat thru the board, and heaven forbid elsewhere.

[TOM4CWB]

Axiom;

The Magician (CWB) is an expert at the slight of hand, faster than the eye can see moves.

The CWB has unlimited resourses (the CDN gov. finances and backs it if the pool accounts run out of our money) and in Canada's new legal system the judges do whatever the Minister Responsible for the CWB (Solicitor General) or PM's office tell them to do.

Amazing that in 2003 that the slavery of grain farmers is legal in Western Canada, where as before the first half of the 20th Century, the SUpreme Court of Canada used to say we had property rights!

I am not quite sure how the constitution of Canada was changed to take our rights and freedoms away, maybe someone could explain the constitutional amendment that turned us into slaves?

[axiom]

Well Jackfish, I sure as heck haven't seen any ammendments you talk about the CWB having made, that I think changes anything worthwhile. From what I see, the CWB decided a long, long time ago to refuse to give any farmer out West, a license, and they've been sticking with that path, and only because they got away with it. We've been pretty much a bunch of sheep out here, I figure.


The big big trouble they have is how do they come up with reason to give to the judge to say they ignored what the law says? After all, the directors can give all kinds of reasons to farmers why they don't give us licenses. YOu've heard it a million times... "it will hurt the pools" or "That bug...r is greedy", but the judge is going to look at the law and I figure the Wheat Board is sunk when they start sputtering to a judge that the law doesn't matter because they are BIG directors who make up their own law.We need to press them on it.They've had a pretty easy run on things. Con-agra didn't have a license either, and they won't be spending time in jail, I'll bet. That's a pretty long speil at coffee this morning!

[Dyno]

Hi "eatmorewheat" a couple of questions for you, since you are now using the forum to advertise your flour mill commercially.
1. Are you licensed and bonded with the CGC, your website doesn't seem to make that very obvious?
2. Why don't you open a bunch more mills across this country? If you can afford to pay much more for wheat than the others presently pay (and you are profitable, which I am sure you are judging by the bids on your website), then logic would dictate expansion. The two commercial flour mills presently based in SK are thriving right now, by the way, I am sure they would welcome some strong competition.

[Everest]

Dyno:

You seem to have a bit of edginess and sarcasm in your comments. Is there something wrong with posting bids or offers in a commodity marketing bulletin board? Seems perfectly normal to me.

And hey, instead of taunting, why don’t YOU build a bunch of flour mills? You imply that it would be easy. Do you know something the rest of us don’t?

[TOM4CWB]

Dyno;

WHy go after Earmorewheat?

Very interesting that Ontario farmers have marketing choice, that they had the opportunity to hedge Very HIGH prices through the OWPMB in the fall of 2002 for fall of 2003 delivery, when the CWB refused to offer these same marketing options to we "designated area" farmers.

When will we Western "designated area" growers be given our freedom to risk manage our assets, for instance just get a cash price... today, when I know the quality and quanity of grain I have to sell... instead of in July before I know what I will produce.


Seems to me Dyno going after Ontario folks is a bit spitefull... especially when you know legally I cannot sell my human consumption wheat to Eatmorewheat without paying the CWB a large pound of flesh to do the buyback... maybe $80-90/t to the pooling accounts DYNO?

[Dyno]

Man Everest and Tom4cwb the veneer is thin on you guys, if there is a hint, even a hint of a view contrary to your own you go snaky. Don't you ever wonder why no one can take you seriously? Your debating skills are matched only by your sensibilities.

[TOM4CWB]

Dyno;

Name calling Now NOW;

Looks like the truth hurts DYNO;

I ask but one thing...

Stay out of my bank account(and those other farmers who need to risk manage their own assets as well) and all our lives will be much simplier.

Or do we all owe you a living DYNO?

[Everest]

I don’t know why, but as evidenced by the discussion in these threads, suspicion, derision, and mordant, acerbic language seem to accompany a lack of respect for the right of individuals to make their own choices.

The price someone is willing to pay is not necessarily circumspect, nor should it be ridiculed. We have, or should have, a choice to simply and quietly go elsewhere. Differences in opinion, differences in business approach, or differences in political views should be respected. Debate can, and indeed should be tolerant and enlightened. Yet I continually see this indubitable tie between a lack of respect for property and a lack of respect for differing views. I find those who respect the rights of others to make their own choices, are more respectful generally in communications and transactions with their colleagues.

If I understand Tom4CWB correctly, all he wants is the ability to manage his own affairs. He does not want to manage or interfere in the affairs of others. He does not want to impinge on the rights or property of others.

He is asking that each of us be just as respectful. And so am I.

[Dyno]

TOM4cwb, not really sure what your interpretation of name calling is, but I fail to see where that occured on my account. Mind you, after observing some of the acid that has spewed from your keyboard against folks who differ from your point of view, one name I certainly can't call you is a christian.

[axiom]

Individuals like eatmorewheat should be encouraged with our 'good luck wishes' to start new companies. Small companies should be supported by good will and be praised. This is the path Canada must take if Canadians want to prosper.