Motion-103

[tweety]

Is it criminal legislation?

[chuckChuck]

When people say all muslims are violent extremists and claim that their religion is the problem then they are promoting bigotry and hate against muslims or islamaphobia. There are some people who make these sorts of hate filled claims. One was Alexandre Bissonnette who shot and killed 6 muslims while they prayed in a Quebec city mosque this year. It should be pretty clear you cant go around inciting hate, fear and violence against any religion, race, or group. We already have laws against most of this behavior but 103 spells it out for those who don't get it. Anti-muslim hate and violence is on the rise and needs to be shut down before we have more violence against innocent Muslims. And by the way ISIS, Al Quaeda and all the other wacko extremist groups kill more Musllims than they do Christians or any other religion.

[burnt]

When people say all muslims are violent extremists and claim that their religion is the problem then they are promoting bigotry and hate against muslims or islamaphobia. There are some people who make these sorts of hate filled claims. One was Alexandre Bissonnette who shot and killed 6 muslims while they prayed in a Quebec city mosque this year. It should be pretty clear you cant go around inciting hate, fear and violence against any religion, race, or group. We already have laws against most of this behavior but 103 spells it out for those who don't get it. Anti-muslim hate and violence is on the rise and needs to be shut down before we have more violence against innocent Muslims. And by the way ISIS, Al Quaeda and all the other wacko extremist groups kill more Musllims than they do Christians or any other religion.

And to what religion do ISIS and Al Quaeda belong, chucky?

I'll bet that even you can guess this one correctly, LOL!

Why do you suppose that there is increasing fear of Islam, chucky?

I'll bet even you can guess this one correctly too, if you're honest.

But we know you're not honest because there is no evidence that there is more hate or violence of Muslims than there has ever been, as you claim. We DO know that there is more fear of Muslims. And why.

[chuckChuck]

And to what religion do ISIS and Al Quaeda belong, chucky?

I'll bet that even you can guess this one correctly, LOL!

Why do you suppose that there is increasing fear of Islam, chucky?

I'll bet even you can guess this one correctly too, if you're honest.

But we know you're not honest because there is no evidence that there is more hate or violence of Muslims than there has ever been, as you claim. We DO know that there is more fear of Muslims. And why.

As I said there are people like Burnt who will say that all Muslims are violent extremists. Or were you trying to say something else? And since It is likely Bissonete was raised a Christian does that make all Christians violent extremists? Or because of the IRA all Catholics are violent extremists?

[burnt]

As I said there are people like Burnt who will say that all Muslims are violent extremists. Or were you trying to say something else? And since It is likely Bissonete was raised a Christian does that make all Christians violent extremists? Or because of the IRA all Catholics are violent extremists?

Answer the question, you ignoramus.

I know you won't answer the question because you are a lying, liberal hypocrite that needs to ignore the truth in order to keep spouting your regressive rhetoric.

And just like your incorrect guess that I'm a dairy farmer, you are guessing incorrectly again, this time that I say that all Muslims are violent - they are not.

However those who are violent - and there are whole countries of them - those are the ones who follow the teachings of the false "prophet" Mohammad the most closely.

chucky, I don't know if you claim to be Christian or ever read a Bible, but since you brought "Christian" into the discussion, you now owe it to us to show where Christ taught his followers to employ violence, deceit or subterfuge to further the kingdom of God.

What you and other misguided liberals cannot bring yourself to admit is that M-103 gives Islam undeserved protection from very-deserved criticism.

[WiltonRanch]

Answer the question, you ignoramus.

I know you won't answer the question because you are a lying, liberal hypocrite that needs to ignore the truth in order to keep spouting your regressive rhetoric.

And just like your incorrect guess that I'm a dairy farmer, you are guessing incorrectly again, this time that I say that all Muslims are violent - they are not.

However those who are violent - and there are whole countries of them - those are the ones who follow the teachings of the false "prophet" Mohammad the most closely.

chucky, I don't know if you claim to be Christian or ever read a Bible, but since you brought "Christian" into the discussion, you now owe it to us to show where Christ taught his followers to employ violence, deceit or subterfuge to further the kingdom of God.

What you and other misguided liberals cannot bring yourself to admit is that M-103 gives Islam undeserved protection from very-deserved criticism.

Exactly. We in our society which is prominently judeo-Christian in belief structure openly question, criticize, and bash religion without fear of reprisal. We can openly say we don't believe and laugh at "bible thumpers". Gay people can be gay in public. No one loses hands, gets pressed with stones, or thrown from buildings etc. Now the very liberals who espouse these rights are doing an about face to protect a group which should be taken to task about a barbaric set of cultural norms not congruent with a liberal democracy.

[blackpowder]

Chuck must be a lawyer. Cause now we'll have a specific new law for every group that wants one.

[sumdumguy]

Exactly. We in our society which is prominently judeo-Christian in belief structure openly question, criticize, and bash religion without fear of reprisal. We can openly say we don't believe and laugh at "bible thumpers". Gay people can be gay in public. No one loses hands, gets pressed with stones, or thrown from buildings etc. Now the very liberals who espouse these rights are doing an about face to protect a group which should be taken to task about a barbaric set of cultural norms not congruent with a liberal democracy.

Well Said, but do we have tosuck it up?

[WiltonRanch]

Well Said, but do we have tosuck it up?

You mean the criticism of being Christian? Or not hurting religious zealots feelings?

[burnt]

You mean the criticism of being Christian? Or not hurting religious zealots feelings?

Christians have to suck it up - I watched a clip of Bill Maher making fun of a pastor and mocking the Christian faith in the most vulgar ways and language.

I thought - sure, go ahead you gutless, humorless jerk, make fun of the faith that will not retaliate for your ignorance.

But just show us how brave you are and say the same things about Islam and the imposter, Mohammad - see how long it takes someone to slit your throat or shoot up your studio. Like Charlie Hebdo.

If M-103 goes from a motion to a Bill, then it won't even be legal to say about Islam what Maher says about Christianity.

There's the problem, compliments of the sock puppet responding to the Muslim string pullers.

But chucky and grassant and a few others see no problem with this.

[foragefarmer]

Burnt

"I watched a clip of Bill Maher making fun of a pastor and mocking the Christian faith in the most vulgar ways and language.

I thought - sure, go ahead you gutless, humorless jerk, make fun of the faith that will not retaliate for your ignorance.

But just show us how brave you are and say the same things about Islam and the imposter, Mohammad - see how long it takes someone to slit your throat or shoot up your studio. Like Charlie Hebdo."


Bill Maher is an atheist, he attacks all religions. Bill has been critical regarding Muslims on many occasions on his show. He has mentioned countless times on his show why are not more American Muslims speaking out against those Muslims committing terrorist acts in the name of Islam. Bill has also mention why is it that the majority of terrorists acts are carried out by Muslims in the name of Islam and that other religions are not committing such acts of terrorism.

Bill Maher in fact has had Muslim guest speaker addressing the very subject of Muslims terrorists and how some Muslim men mistreat their wives.

So Burnt, unlike you who talks tough here on Agriville hiding behind an alias, Bill Maher has the balls and has not shied away for addressing the Muslim terrorism issues on HBO. Which network are you on??

[sawfly1]

right on bill maher.

blasphemy , is kinda a dumb word ,
i sure hope it never appears in a law.
if it does , i guess we are still in the dark ages

every other religions beliefs , and non religious beliefs ,are just that to another religion.
so they are all guilty of blasphemy by their mere existence.

so if it was in a law , it would apply to everyone but atheists.
you can say anything you want about them. legally.

i can see not promoting hate , but free speech and debate , we need that.

parsley i know you are upset about sharia law

but how much different is it really ( if they live within the laws of the land)
than catholic or christian schools .
either the govt. accommodates religions or they don,t hutterites etc.

my personal opinion is the govt. has no business supporting any religion or non religion.
just wondering your views, do Christians get a pass and the others not. ?

would you put up with Islamic schools to save christian schools ?