Glyphosate and feed

[furrowtickler]

Will be interesting to watch this story unfold . If that trace amount of glyphosate is actually responsible for the issues stated , then yes it's a major issue .
Glyphosate is under major scrutiny all over the world and has been for some time .

[ColevilleH2S]

The plural of anecdote is not data.

The actual data shows that since the widespread use of glyphosate began, milk yields have doubled. So how much of a problem could it be?
[URL="http://usda.mannlib.cornell.edu/MannUsda/viewDocumentInfo.do?documentID=1103"]Milk yield data[/URL]

[tweety]

Will be interesting to watch this story unfold . If that trace amount of glyphosate is actually responsible for the issues stated , then yes it's a major issue .
Glyphosate is under major scrutiny all over the world and has been for some time .

And THAT is what the organic industry did right here. It gave furrow doubt, posted his doubt in public, and completely ignored the thousands of actual peer reviewed studies that show it doesn't, doing great marketing for the organic industry - for free.

Now multiply the furrows by a million tweeting and facebooking and commenting, and you have customers for your products worth billions without spending a dime on an actual study to prove anything.

Disgusting, but that's the organic industry.

[the big wheel]

And how many studies paid for by Monsanto???
Just as many paid for by the bias the other way too. Was it not admittedly a carcinogen? But then again so is everything else.

[furrowtickler]

Easy there Tweety , lol , having a bad day?
The only doubt I have that there is actually a link between the two . Lots of studies show like you stated , it's a non issue . I stated thoughts in the post before.
But you seem to jump to your own conclusion fairly quickly from one word "if".
But I guess if that's your interpretation of what I said .... lol .

[TSIPP]

So its a non issue, sprinkling poisoning onto food,I guess my liver must need a workout anyways I got one might as well use the darn thing.

Maybe the big tobacco companies can convince us that smoking is still good for us.

[Jay-mo]

Is this Agriville or Hippyville??

[Blaithin]

Has there not been a link to glyphosate and breeding issues in cattle? I’m sure there was a research paper on it a couple years back. On my phone so can’t be arsed to try and find it, but pretty sure I wouldnt hallucinate the entire thing.

But who knows, maybe I would!

[pourfarmer]

That's not a citation, that's an article about a vet being paid handsomely, owner of, and in total conflict by the organic industry promoting themselves. The Western Producer once again doing the proper journalistic background and conflict checks...... Not! They got suckered.

Which is why i asked for a citation of glyphosate damage to cattle.

Citation of payment to the vet please.

[tweety]

Easy there Tweety , lol , having a bad day?
The only doubt I have that there is actually a link between the two . Lots of studies show like you stated , it's a non issue . I stated thoughts in the post before.
But you seem to jump to your own conclusion fairly quickly from one word "if".
But I guess if that's your interpretation of what I said .... lol .

You're a smart guy, i know you would like to see actual proof, just using you as an example. But its the repeated casting of doubt - baseless doubt, over and over in social media, print media and especially the Western Producer, that's the problem. Its baseless lies, and if they get repeated enough times, its fact.

The even bigger question, suppose glyphosate got banned because of this obsurdity, then what is the next scapegoat, the next step? What's the end game here for the organic industry? Or do they know it will never be banned but makes great marketing.

[oneoff]

No matter how you shake, rattle or roll it... the fact is that people are divided on even what they consider safe to eat.

Tolerance is at an all time low...and part of that divisiveness can be laid at the feet of the "organic" industry and as yet unproven claims and promotion of a supposed alternative that would (at present) result in substantial food shortages in the near term. Deliberate or not...the very survival of current conventional farming is on the line.

That's not my definition of community building; making decisions based on fact and reasoning; and the deliberate ignoring by that small minority of producers who have their own set of long term problems.

Just for the record.. Estevan lost out to having the first 10MW Sask Power solar demonstration project. And the main reason was supposedly the refusal of the local RM to have land taken out of production for the footprint of the solar panel array. Another feather in the hat of the environmental movement or is it just further proof you can't have cake; eat it and always have more cake????.

[shtferbrains]

Use to spray hay fields 4 days before last cut before working them up.

Wasn't the cows favorite hay. Too brown and dead smelling.

Cows love that nice fresh smell of green hay.

Millions of acres of RR corn are fed to cattle in North America and all over the world.

A Vet in Shaunavan Sask thinks it is killing a significant % of the cattle.

Some of those 100000 head feedlots must have a big dead pile.

[oneoff]

Veterinarians; like any other segment of society; have members within their group with differing opinions and theories.

Without credible overwhelming evidence; those personal opinions are best initially pretty seriously discounted or controlled (considered suspect at least and the bigger picture given much more thought ) in one fashion or another.

[oneoff]

Just read the article.

What jumps off the page is the antidote.

And an admission that an unspecified number aren't affected; and that health is restored by the simple treatment recommended.

Further study might also find that other contributing factors might someday be identified; because every dairy herd should be expected to have at least some level of the same identified liver problems etc. if the same glyphosate is involved in those other herds rations.

Glyposate isn't the real target. It's the opinion that all ailments are the fault of some chemical that actually has a proper place in producing necessary food for the number of souls that a minority of society now demands be born to overtax finite resources and space.

[wmoebis]

What about hereditary traits to glphos intolerance?
Just like diabetes or maybe celiac and gluten intolerance?
Was this herd genetically related?

Maybe some people, animals are intolerant and need thier genes altered to make them RR.