Glyphosate and feed

[tweety]

Easy there Tweety , lol , having a bad day?
The only doubt I have that there is actually a link between the two . Lots of studies show like you stated , it's a non issue . I stated thoughts in the post before.
But you seem to jump to your own conclusion fairly quickly from one word "if".
But I guess if that's your interpretation of what I said .... lol .

You're a smart guy, i know you would like to see actual proof, just using you as an example. But its the repeated casting of doubt - baseless doubt, over and over in social media, print media and especially the Western Producer, that's the problem. Its baseless lies, and if they get repeated enough times, its fact.

The even bigger question, suppose glyphosate got banned because of this obsurdity, then what is the next scapegoat, the next step? What's the end game here for the organic industry? Or do they know it will never be banned but makes great marketing.

[oneoff]

No matter how you shake, rattle or roll it... the fact is that people are divided on even what they consider safe to eat.

Tolerance is at an all time low...and part of that divisiveness can be laid at the feet of the "organic" industry and as yet unproven claims and promotion of a supposed alternative that would (at present) result in substantial food shortages in the near term. Deliberate or not...the very survival of current conventional farming is on the line.

That's not my definition of community building; making decisions based on fact and reasoning; and the deliberate ignoring by that small minority of producers who have their own set of long term problems.

Just for the record.. Estevan lost out to having the first 10MW Sask Power solar demonstration project. And the main reason was supposedly the refusal of the local RM to have land taken out of production for the footprint of the solar panel array. Another feather in the hat of the environmental movement or is it just further proof you can't have cake; eat it and always have more cake????.

[shtferbrains]

Use to spray hay fields 4 days before last cut before working them up.

Wasn't the cows favorite hay. Too brown and dead smelling.

Cows love that nice fresh smell of green hay.

Millions of acres of RR corn are fed to cattle in North America and all over the world.

A Vet in Shaunavan Sask thinks it is killing a significant % of the cattle.

Some of those 100000 head feedlots must have a big dead pile.

[oneoff]

Veterinarians; like any other segment of society; have members within their group with differing opinions and theories.

Without credible overwhelming evidence; those personal opinions are best initially pretty seriously discounted or controlled (considered suspect at least and the bigger picture given much more thought ) in one fashion or another.

[oneoff]

Just read the article.

What jumps off the page is the antidote.

And an admission that an unspecified number aren't affected; and that health is restored by the simple treatment recommended.

Further study might also find that other contributing factors might someday be identified; because every dairy herd should be expected to have at least some level of the same identified liver problems etc. if the same glyphosate is involved in those other herds rations.

Glyposate isn't the real target. It's the opinion that all ailments are the fault of some chemical that actually has a proper place in producing necessary food for the number of souls that a minority of society now demands be born to overtax finite resources and space.

[wmoebis]

What about hereditary traits to glphos intolerance?
Just like diabetes or maybe celiac and gluten intolerance?
Was this herd genetically related?

Maybe some people, animals are intolerant and need thier genes altered to make them RR.

[farmaholic]

What about hereditary traits to glphos intolerance?
Just like diabetes or maybe celiac and gluten intolerance?
Was this herd genetically related?

Maybe some people, animals are intolerant and need thier genes altered to make them RR.

LOL, RR livestock.

[SASKFARMER3]

Its all a sell the swather play.

Most got rid of the swather so they could strait cut every thing now monsanto is bought by Bayer and Bayer got rid of Liberty watch it will be either a new chemical for desiccation thats 26.95 a acre and is safe or buy the swather again and go knock down all your HRS and Barley and Oats just so you don't have to pay the Piper again.

Ah the games we farmers have to deal with.

Lots are getting sick of the games, the number drinking the coolaid is getting less and less and less.

[Hamloc]

When I first read the article and the vet was talking about the glyphosate level being 448 parts per billion, I thought wow that level seem high. So I started searching to see what level of mrl's are allowable for glyphosate. Then it clicked in, mrl's are given in parts per million! So actually the level in this corn is .448 parts per million. The fact that this vet gave it in parts per billion shows that he has an agenda and is trying to exaggerate the level of glyphosate in the feed. Talked to one guy who had grown corn for winter grazing last year and with the wet year it had white mood in it so he had to carefully restrict access and feed other forage to dilute it. Maybe this vet is overlooking a mycotoxin issue so he can blame glyphosate. Just a thought.

[sumdumguy]

When I first read the article and the vet was talking about the glyphosate level being 448 parts per billion, I thought wow that level seem high. So I started searching to see what level of mrl's are allowable for glyphosate. Then it clicked in, mrl's are given in parts per million! So actually the level in this corn is .448 parts per million. The fact that this vet gave it in parts per billion shows that he has an agenda and is trying to exaggerate the level of glyphosate in the feed. Talked to one guy who had grown corn for winter grazing last year and with the wet year it had white mood in it so he had to carefully restrict access and feed other forage to dilute it. Maybe this vet is overlooking a mycotoxin issue so he can blame glyphosate. Just a thought.

I have been told that when testing is done and residues are found in such minute amounts, even if the grain was grown in a completely closed environment a little bit shows up in the test. It may even be due to the fact that there is a wee bit of false-positive. Bad enough in parts per million, but imagine parts per billion. Just saying there is a limit to how accurate you can be with data.

Don't get me wrong - rounding up mere days prior to combining is not my cup of tea either. It only stands to reason that increased residues can be expected in the grain sample (that is ground into flour). Who wants to eat chemical? If you want to eat chemical - go for it! You may drink a litre a day and you will be proof - positive. 👍

[tweety]

Its all a sell the swather play.

Most got rid of the swather so they could strait cut every thing now monsanto is bought by Bayer and Bayer got rid of Liberty watch it will be either a new chemical for desiccation thats 26.95 a acre and is safe or buy the swather again and go knock down all your HRS and Barley and Oats just so you don't have to pay the Piper again.

Ah the games we farmers have to deal with.

Lots are getting sick of the games, the number drinking the coolaid is getting less and less and less.

Are you drunk?

[sumdumguy]

The industry standard for human-consumption lentils in Europe is 4 parts per million, but Italy is special, there's is restricted to one part per million. Peas are ten parts per million which makes you wonder. So Hamloc, you see these samples at .448 parts are well below European standards. Correct me if I am wrong.