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    #13
    So lets recalculate.

    Fossil energy is highly subsidized with direct subsidies and indirect subsidies according to the IMF. In which case whenever anyone makes a cost comparison with renewables those subsidies have to be included in the calculation. Correct.

    Lets move forward in recognizing that renewables also have hidden costs and in some cases are subsidized. That way we can compare the benefits and costs of each.

    Sask power for example must feel that wind is an economic option otherwise it would not invest in new wind generation. They are planning for 50% renewables by 2030. 30% will be wind.

    SaskPower's 200 MW Wind Project Moves to RFP Phase of Competition

    July 6, 2017

    The competitive process for the next 200 megawatts (MW) of utility-scale wind capacity is moving forward, with the Request for Proposal (RFP) phase of the competition. Eight of the 23 independent power producers who entered the Request for Qualification (RFQ) phase have qualified to move on to the RFP phase and have been invited to submit proposals for the competition.

    “Wind power will play a key role in Saskatchewan’s electricity future,” said Guy Bruce, SaskPower Vice-President of Special Projects. “As of today, wind makes up a total of five per cent of our available generating capacity. We plan to increase this to 30 per cent by 2030 and this project is one way we will reach our goal.”

    SaskPower plans to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions by approximately 40 per cent (from 2005 levels) by 2030. It will significantly increase the amount of renewable electricity in Saskatchewan’s generation mix from 25 per cent today to as much as 50 per cent by 2030.

    The competition is being conducted through a two-stage process. In February 2017, SaskPower issued an RFQ to identify independent power producers. Qualified proponents will have until May 25, 2018 to submit their proposals, including choosing their own sites to put forward in the competition. All proposals will be evaluated equally through an open, fair and transparent process. The successful proponent will be announced in fall 2018, with the project expected to be in-service in early 2021.

    Wind is an intermittent generation source that requires a ‘back-up’ generation source, like natural gas, when the wind isn’t blowing. This project will generate enough electricity to power approximately 80,000 homes.

    SaskPower is facing some unprecedented challenges as we plan for the future, including: a growing demand for power, the transition to cleaner generation options, and the need to upgrade and modernize our aging power grid. We must consider all available options in order to have the right mix to ensure reliable, cost-effective and sustainable power.

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      #14
      http://www.saskpower.com/our-power-future/renewables-roadmap/

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        #15
        Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
        The population of Canada would decrease quickly without reliable fossil fuel and reliable energy sources. Populations would move closer to the equator.

        Staying warm at -40C is fairly important.
        Well, fairly important to those who live in those colder latitudes, anyway.

        Not so important to the authors of U.N. Agenda 21/30 as they basked in the warmth of their conference center in Rio DeJaneiro where the average annual temperature is about 24C and varies little from there.

        And all the crap that chucky guesses is truthful comes from those imperialistic hogs who spawned that nihilistic propaganda.

        And they have fooled millions. The bigger the lie, the easier to sell.

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          #16
          cc.

          It's mainly tire blow outs on pit run RM roads. Are you volunteering to drive by a walker? It's only $4.50 one way!

          Mentioned before that I don't vote, therefore can't be political. Too old to learn much from a person that doesn't negotiate, and therefore certainly couldn't arrive at a fair outcome for both parties.

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            #17
            Originally posted by burnt View Post
            Well, fairly important to those who live in those colder latitudes, anyway.

            Not so important to the authors of U.N. Agenda 21/30 as they basked in the warmth of their conference center in Rio DeJaneiro where the average annual temperature is about 24C and varies little from there.

            And all the crap that chucky guesses is truthful comes from those imperialistic hogs who spawned that nihilistic propaganda.

            And they have fooled millions. The bigger the lie, the easier to sell.
            Burnt you are the holder of the real truth. You must lead the peasant revolt against the imperialist pigs. Your the man!!! LOL too effing funny.

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              #18
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Burnt you are the holder of the real truth. You must lead the peasant revolt against the imperialist pigs. Your the man!!! LOL too effing funny.
              Aw shucks, gee thanks chucky!

              That is just so meaningful coming from you, you being such an intellectual and all!

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                #19
                Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                The population of Canada would decrease quickly without reliable fossil fuel and reliable energy sources. Populations would move closer to the equator.

                Staying warm at -40C is fairly important.
                Wasn't there a group of individuals living here just fine through the winters before they became "civilized" without fossil fuels?

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                  #20
                  Originally posted by tweety View Post
                  Wasn't there a group of individuals living here just fine through the winters before they became "civilized" without fossil fuels?
                  Oh right! Start building the teepees, er wide base chimney, but where is all the buffalo shit to burn?

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by tweety View Post
                    Wasn't there a group of individuals living here just fine through the winters before they became "civilized" without fossil fuels?
                    Why don’t you enlighten us how they kept themselves warm and how that would work with everyone in the world today.

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                      #22
                      Makes you wonder what things would look like if as much $ was spent on advancement of ethanol and bio diesel after invention of internal combustion engine or even steam power instead of on fossil fuels.

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                        #23
                        We went from the age of necessity to the age of convenience! I do like convenience over gathering cow patties or peat. But I don't really endorse coal generation. I would much rather have a nuc in my backyard. But a lot of people are afraid of the bogey man, lol.

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                          #24
                          Living the ****ing dream in candlelight tonight.

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