Useless Canadian Grain companies

[Braveheart]

The only complaint from here is that we should always have had marketing freedom.

[SASKFARMER3]

We wanted the freedom to market our grain and if it would of been done right the first time we could of had both competing the problem was farmers need cash and can't wait years to get paid.

[bucket]

Maybe people can't see the parallels between the system we had and the system we have today....


The result is the same.

No one liked waiting for their final payment is no different than waiting for grain cos to take delivery....

Now they just cherry pick the delivery to make it harder....



13 protein isn't good enough....now they need 14.5...

[farmaholic]

In a way, the only thing that changed was your Master! Other than being able to move as much as you want (kind of when you want) and getting paid for all of it at once and being able to sell to absolutely anyone you want where you want..... the rest has a lot to be desired!

Have any efficiencies trickled down to the Producer? Rail hasn't seemed to changed much. And now handling is more than just handling charges now.... margins in grade and price spreads are the new game so I would say it's gotten worse in that department.

Maybe we don't need to know what true sales values and volumes are out of export ports.... it's none of our business, but our information is their business!?!?!?!

[Kinger]

We talk like we are the ones who get shafted all the time. But if a grainco is screwing over farmers do you think they are gonna keep buying grain from them? Elevators can't be moved to a new location if you run out of customers. Any issues we've had with elevators have been worked out fairly well. Never 100% to what you would like but close enough that I'm happy with the end result.

Now

Kinger's tips for selling your grain.

Key part of selling your grain is setting the right expectations for the deal. Protein, moisture, grade, discounts etc. Then if your protein comes in low or moisture too high you know what is going to happen.

If you don't set those expectations and these things happen is when things get costly.

This is all more so related to wheat but a good thing to keep in mind on canola and soybeans too.

[the big wheel]

No kinger the elevator can move they just don't buy grains everywhere they used to we have to kiss their asses what's our other option? You better not let the boys find out which company your working for.
Some of us big boys start boycotting an elevator and it's fkd. Problem is we don't know the power we have.

[SASKFARMER3]

Prime example is what are farmers growing.

More and more are saying piss on the useless grade games with Wheat switch to two crops Oats or Barley and Canola and peas.

Malt had been destroyed with useless game playing and its to the point most are giving up on it as well.

to all the genius who want canola to be oil content go F#$K% your self it to will be like Wheat and Barley.

Give them a inch they take a mile.

[farmaholic]

No kinger the elevator can move they just don't buy grains everywhere they used to we have to kiss their asses what's our other option? You better not let the boys find out which company your working for.
Some of us big boys start boycotting an elevator and it's fkd. Problem is we don't know the power we have.

Two very good points..... exactly, explain the option to some people who have to travel miles for just one delivery point. Some are lucky and have many within reasonable distance.

Secondly, the power thing.... just wait, if we could ever get organized. How the **** the group holding the gold let themselves get into this position is beyond me.

[blackpowder]

With Braveheart. We must be the only wheat growers on earth.

[Hopalong]

Make that three with us.

[blackpowder]

Flattered. But the second sentence was my poorly written attempt at sarcasm. To me some sound as if they must be the only ones in the world with those problems.

[tweety]

What farmers need is some sort of coop that they own. That way with they're own company they can retain the profits instead of it going to corporate shareholders.

That would be great.

Oh and BTW every market analyst knows its true, farmers don't market anything. The grain market was never set up for farmers, it is for grain companies. Reality check time of just how unimportant you are in the whole market scheme.

[fjlip]

What farmers need is some sort of coop that they own. That way with they're own company they can retain the profits instead of it going to corporate shareholders.

That would be great.

Oh and BTW every market analyst knows its true, farmers don't market anything. The grain market was never set up for farmers, it is for grain companies. Reality check time of just how unimportant you are in the whole market scheme.

Peasants to feed the billionaires...

[farmaholic]

What farmers need is some sort of coop that they own. That way with they're own company they can retain the profits instead of it going to corporate shareholders.

That would be great.

Oh and BTW every market analyst knows its true, farmers don't market anything. The grain market was never set up for farmers, it is for grain companies. Reality check time of just how unimportant you are in the whole market scheme.

If every non-subsistence farmer wwouldn'tgrow a crop you'd find out just how ****ing important they are in the scheme of things....you bet, reality check time. Ya I know, dream on!

[Kinger]

Grain markets arn't some secret society you have to get into to use.

In the US roughly 70% of farmers are using some kind of grain marketing tool on there contracts.

In Canadian that number is under 1%.

Most graincos or brokers offer options or other tools that anyone can use.

Lots of brokers and graincos have info nights where you can learn about these things and start trying to use them.