Elon Musk reveals new Tesla Semi Truck

[LEP]

Ok, so I know this is taboo for the green revolution, but why not offer the option of a small integrated genset in some of these vehicles. It would meet the demand of those needing a longer range while dramatically reducing carbon emissions. There probably could be a calculation about shrinking some of the number of batteries.

So electric for up to 200 miles and hybrid up to 500 miles range. Still a reduction of carbon dioxide emissions. If that is the goal.

[burnt]

Ok, so I know this is taboo for the green revolution, but why not offer the option of a small integrated genset in some of these vehicles. It would meet the demand of those needing a longer range while dramatically reducing carbon emissions. There probably could be a calculation about shrinking some of the number of batteries.

So electric for up to 200 miles and hybrid up to 500 miles range. Still a reduction of carbon dioxide emissions. If that is the goal.

What heresy is this? Practicality be damned!

Do you not know that oil is anathema?

[mcfarms]

Just wanted to check in on this thread have been very busy with a major project. When I saw this thread I thought what better time or place to make the announcement.
Soon I will be going to the alberta govt and federal govt as well as offering my first round of investor offerings for this bold new directon for our agricultural power needs.
A direction and technology that is both green and renewable and can be harnessed .powered by the energy of the sun and earth this technology is scaleable and you can easily add more units as your power needs change . So get your checkbooks ready to invest because once rolled out this will be the technology that we will be using in the future.
Here is a first look only available here. now for those that can't afford our top of the line concept we will also offer the mid level.
Or even our entry level. .
Stay tuned for our announcement to get in on this bold new urbanite and ndp approved farming future.

[farmaholic]

Mcfarms....the irony that is there could still be some of that happening in subsistence farming areas of the world.

[mcfarms]

True, attended as well as gave a talk a few years back at a deal in florida to a group of under 40s from all over the world. Used the term stone age to space age when describing world ag.

[farmaholic]

True, attended as well as gave a talk a few years back at a deal in florida to a group of under 40s from all over the world. Used the term stone age to space age when describing world ag.

LOL....good description. How much space aged farming technology do we need to sustain the world population. Could the world afford to eat if the current advanced energy(proven) requirements were replaced by something less dependable and more expensive(renewable).

I'm not saying don't research the alternatives. ....but we all know we're not at a point they will replace what we currently have yet....or even the near future.

[chuckChuck]

Mcfarms....the irony that is there could still be some of that happening in subsistence farming areas of the world.

Didnt Grass post a graphic showing 70 % of the worlds food is produced by small farmers and that for every 1.5 calories of energy in, small holders get 15 calories of food versus large scale industrial farming the ratio is 1 calorie in for 1.5 of food. In those terms which is more efficient?

A large percentage of what is produced in large scale industrial agriculture is feed grains which are fed to livestock to produce a relatively small amount of food for those who can afford meat, dairy, and poultry products.

If you also add in all the corn, soybeans and canola used for bio-fuels it turns out that large scale industrial agriculture is not producing a whole lot of food for the worlds population.

So the reality is Mcfarm's animal and human power photos are currently showing how most of the world's food is currently produced.

[farmaholic]

Didnt Grass post a graphic showing 70 % of the worlds food is produced by small farmers and that for every 1.5 calories of energy in, small holders get 15 calories of food versus large scale industrial farming the ratio is 1 calorie in for 1.5 of food. In those terms which is more efficient?

A large percentage of what is produced in large scale industrial agriculture is feed grains which are fed to livestock to produce a relatively small amount of food for those who can afford meat, dairy, and poultry products.

If you also add in all the corn, soybeans and canola used for bio-fuels it turns out that large scale industrial agriculture is not producing a whole lot of food for the worlds population.

So the reality is Mcfarm's animal and human power photos are currently showing how most of the world's food is currently produced.

I will never have the ammunition to argue with you but I have a hard time believing Industrial Ag isn't responsible for most of the world's food. I wonder how many people I alone feed. Oddly enough were some of those antiquated farming practices are occuring are also the areas that experience famine or need to import food or hope for aid.

JMHO....nothing more.

[chuckChuck]

I will never have the ammunition to argue with you but I have a hard time believing Industrial Ag isn't responsible for most of the world's food. I wonder how many people I alone feed. Oddly enough were some of those antiquated farming practices are occuring are also the areas that experience famine or need to import food or hope for aid.

JMHO....nothing more.

Farma I agree those numbers should be checked. I was quoting grass's post from memory. I don't have much time today but I found this link that sheds some light on the issue.
https://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6053187/cropland-map-food-fuel-animal-feed
How much of the world's cropland is actually used to grow food?