Egypt bombing

[sofa.king]

Isis killed hundreds at a mosque and egyptian govt killed everyone in getaway vehicles and bombed and killed many more at suspected terrorist camps. Here in canada our govt welcomes isis fighters home with a promise to reintegrate these ****heads. This country is done.

[TASFarms]

Ontario pc is putting a good platform up for the next election. So maybe there is alittle hope.

[farmaholic]

Ontario pc is putting a good platform up for the next election. So maybe there is alittle hope.

Do you mean a gallows? If we get a terror strike from these returning "war zeros"....I wouldn't be against using it on the very people who thought repatriating these treasonous losers was a good idea!

[Oliver88]

If this drama teacher "Islamic terrorist counselling workshops" lead to a terrorist attack in Canada all the politicians who approved this should be charged with treason.
Every ISIS terrorist by law could be charged with treason the way it is.....and until recently we could strip their Canadian citizenship until Goodale and Selfie eliminated that.

What a disaster.

[chuckChuck]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/isis-prosecute-****-murder-slavery-1.3966668

Prosecute ISIS fighters for murder, ****, slavery, torture — not just terrorism, expert says
Canadian-led group looking to set up war crimes court in Northern Iraq to try ISIS members for crimes

By Peter Zimonjic, CBC News Posted: Feb 03, 2017 6:40 PM ET Last Updated: Feb 03, 2017 6:46 PM ET
A displaced woman and child from the Yazidi sect flee violence from forces loyal to ISIS in Sinjar, Iraq. Yazidis are often classified as 'subhuman' by the militant group. A Canadian lawyer wants ISIS fighters prosecuted for each crime against the Yazidi minority group.

A displaced woman and child from the Yazidi sect flee violence from forces loyal to ISIS in Sinjar, Iraq. Yazidis are often classified as 'subhuman' by the militant group. A Canadian lawyer wants ISIS fighters prosecuted for each crime against the Yazidi minority group. (Rodi Said/Reuters)
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To stop the flow of recruits to ISIS, Canada and its allies need to put captured members of the group on trial for each crime they commit rather than lumping their offences under the generic term of terrorism, says the Canadian head of a group investigating atrocities in Iraq and Syria.

Bill Wiley, executive director for the Commission for International Justice and Accountability, has been working with investigators on the ground to tie crimes such as systematic murder, ****, slavery and torture to the ISIS leadership.

He says that while putting captured ISIS fighters on trial for terrorism may be easier than prosecuting them for slavery, genocide and the persecution of minorities, it will not cut off the flow of recruits to the militant group.

"It's a relatively quick way to prosecute individuals, but … with a lot of possible joiners of these groups, if you prosecute an [ISIS] member as a terrorist, it may serve as an incentive to others to join because they'll say: 'Well, if we're terrorists, what about George Bush, what about Tony Blair and so forth,'" Wiley told CBC's Power & Politics.

"We really feel that this counterterrorism effort needs to be coupled with a criminal prosecutorial effort, which reveals groups such as the Islamic State to essentially be criminal syndicates engaged in murder, narcotics trafficking, sexual slavery and so forth — to leave aside the terrorist label wherever possible," Wiley said.

Wiley, a lawyer and former Canadian Forces officer, has worked on war crimes investigations with the Department of Justice Canada and the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

During an appearance before a parliamentary committee last November, Wiley told MPs that his group's annual operating budget stands at about $10.5 million and that Canada had provided the group with $3.3 million in funding over the previous 18 months.

Other donors to the group include the United Kingdom, Germany and the European Union.

"Canada is the most generous donor at the present time, or perhaps it's tied with the European Union," Wiley told the committee. "The problem is not that Canada should give more; the problem is states, including states that draw very heavily on our material, that give nothing."
Crimes against humanity

The group has about 150 staff, with about half that number working as investigators on the ground in Syria and Iraq. Their research has identified several dozen ISIS actors that have been directly engaged in planning and executing crimes such as slavery, **** and murder.

He says that ISIS designated the Yazidi population, which largely lives in Iraq, as subhuman and therefore not deserving of life.

"Men and boys over the age of roughly 10 were given the option of converting to Sunni Islam. Where they refused, they were summarily executed," Wiley told Power & Politics. "And as far as we can tell, the vast majority of males, in fact, did not convert and paid the price.

"Women and girls were set aside to be sorted for slavery. Women over a certain age — we believe the cut off was about 40 years of age — again were executed. We don't believe they were given the opportunity even to convert to Sunni Islam. They were simply shot out of hand, having been deemed too old for slavery."
New court

Women under 40 were trafficked into Syria, Wiley said, where they were "distributed" to members of the ISIS leadership or sold in the "active" slave market in Raqqa.

Going forward, Wiley says his group is working with its donor nations, the Iraqi government and the Kurdistan Regional Authority in Northern Iraq to create a type of war crimes court that would expose ISIS's crimes in detail, rather than allow the group to perpetuate its freedom-fighter image to potential recruits.

"We're making some progress in that respect but there is still some way to go," Wiley said. It will take "more resources and more time but Canada is very much behind that effort — there's no question about that."

[chuckChuck]

Canada's record on prosecuting war crimminals is not great. Some have estimated there were 2000 -5000 Nazi war crimminals in Canada at one time. A few were deported even fewer were charged and convicted.

Sounds like it is going to cost a lot to prosecute ISIS members in Iraq and will require the support of numerous countries.

Numerous posts seemed to think we can just kill all captured ISIS fighters. That makes little sense because then we would be guilty of committing war crimes against alleged perpetrators ourselves. Which nobody in canada's military would support.

So how do you stop returning ISIS fighters without evidence from Iraqi victims or proof that they were indeed members of ISIS? It cant be done without evidence.

If we couldn't convict Nazi's after the second world war where there was a lot of documented evidence it will very difficult to convict ISIS fighters who fought mostly an undocumented terror campaign.

It will require a big investment of time and money to prosecute, and watch former ISIS fighters. We have no choice but to spend the money.

[the big wheel]

Ummm you just don't let any of them in until you can be sure what you have.
You create a neutral zone for them with the goal to return to their own country. Saving us millions of dollars and keeping us safe.

[chuckChuck]

Ummm you just don't let any of them in until you can be sure what you have.
You create a neutral zone for them with the goal to return to their own country. Saving us millions of dollars and keeping us safe.

How would that work? Where would it be located?

[the big wheel]

Are we not claiming no more Isis in many areas? We have plenty of worthless peas so that issue is solved.

Why do they not want to go back home? Because they all belong to fueding factions that have murdered each other for ever. Am I supposed to put my family at risk to change that? Am I supposed to pay for that? Do we not have homeless people here? Can we afford to do this hundreds of thousands per year? It's beyond nuts.

[sofa.king]

Should be an eye for an eye type of justice. Maybe give them a fair trial then kill the pricks.

[Bowerpower]

Should be an eye for an eye type of justice. Maybe give them a fair trial then kill the pricks.

That would be the only justice those extremists would understand.

[sumdumguy]

Ralph Goodale admitted that our efforts to rehabilitate returning terrorists are futile, meanwhile we have re-admitted 60 with another 180 en route. Are we safe - No! Do we like walking amidst the terrorists- definitely not! Do we worry about strikes on our ground - why should we have to?

[Guest]

Canada's record on prosecuting war crimminals is not great. Some have estimated there were 2000 -5000 Nazi war crimminals in Canada at one time. A few were deported even fewer were charged and convicted.

Sounds like it is going to cost a lot to prosecute ISIS members in Iraq and will require the support of numerous countries.

Numerous posts seemed to think we can just kill all captured ISIS fighters. That makes little sense because then we would be guilty of committing war crimes against alleged perpetrators ourselves. Which nobody in canada's military would support.

So how do you stop returning ISIS fighters without evidence from Iraqi victims or proof that they were indeed members of ISIS? It cant be done without evidence.

If we couldn't convict Nazi's after the second world war where there was a lot of documented evidence it will very difficult to convict ISIS fighters who fought mostly an undocumented terror campaign.

It will require a big investment of time and money to prosecute, and watch former ISIS fighters. We have no choice but to spend the money.

well I Hope they're your neighbors and not mine .
another option would be to lock them up and let the women that are left there deal with them .

[the big wheel]

I don't remember ever being asked if as a tax payer I was for allowing those people in by the hundreds of thousands??

At that level they will be a voting factor? Is that the goal here?

[binthere]

According to MBA manifesto it is.