sOLAR PANEL REALITY

[tweety]

Example 4021 of gubmints wasting tax dollars.

[URL="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/solar-self-sufficiency-not-feasible-1.4427770"]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/solar-self-sufficiency-not-feasible-1.4427770[/URL]

I'm all for solar panels and batteries when you spend your own money on them. Go for it!

But for gubmints to incinerate hard working people's tax dollars on them is insane at this point in time.

So you good with spending billions of tax dollars on non renewable oil, gas, and coal?

Article brought to you by the same people who think glyphosate causes cancer.

[oneoff]

And the same tunnel vision and refusal to entertain thoughts about any of the flaws in facts and reasoning that are conveniently ignored or downplayed.

[oneoff]

Here's just a "minor" correction about 1.7 cent/KWH green power from solar sources....\\\ Maybe promoters would like to confirm or deny this foot note I just ran across. Whoops!!!!


Corrections

A previous version of this story quoted sources describing the new low price as being from solar energy. We've since determined that new low price was actually from wind.
Nov 27, 2017 2:33 PM ET

[RWT101]

So you good with spending billions of tax dollars on non renewable oil, gas, and coal?

Article brought to you by the same people who think glyphosate causes cancer.

Can you understand the graph in this article?

[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/16/canada-exports-manufacturing_n_4283794.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/16/canada-exports-manufacturing_n_4283794.html[/URL]

And you want to destroy Canada's energy sector for exactly what reason?

[oneoff]

The chart above was from data previous to Nov 2013.

Maybe the chart has been fixed by the oil price crash since that time. Also maybe selling raw product at firesale prices doesn't fix real economic problems.

Usually that has something to do with losing money on every unit sold...so you try to double units sold to become profitable and find out that balance sheet still gives at least double previous losses.

[tweety]

Can you understand the graph in this article?

[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/16/canada-exports-manufacturing_n_4283794.html"]http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/16/canada-exports-manufacturing_n_4283794.html[/URL]

And you want to destroy Canada's energy sector for exactly what reason?

Will canada's energy sector be destroyed if it doesn't receive billions in tax dollars, but it rather instead go to upstart renewable energy industries?

I'm not suggesting more tax dollars, i'm saying stop giving it to filthy rich oil companies and instead to renewables.

So you're good with giving tax dollars to millionaire/billionaire oil company CEO's and upper management who don't even live in Canada and not renewable?

[bucket]

What I don't uderstand about either solar or oil is why it's all subsidized.....federated coop was subsidized. ....solar farms need help or run by the state....


Meanwhile real wealth creators like us farmers are shit on.....

If you did a proportional look at subsidies to any other industry and compared to primary agriculture...the other industries get 1000s of time more money compared to the size and scope of ag. ...


Bombardier itself has received more money than farmers collectively....and then they create a trade irritant by selling below the cost of production with no ROI to the taxpayer....

Meanwhile back at the farm let's look at who we support

1. Fertilizer
2. Chemical
3. Seed
4. Fuel
5. Manufacturers
6. Railways
7. Grain cos


All on our backs....some pretty impressive blue chips....most who already receive government support to prop up their profits....and some isn't monetary just policy that allows them to make money....

Off topic I know but nothing gets built without government it seems...

[Hamloc]

Top ten exports 2016 Canada (in usd)

1 Vehicles. $64.3 billion(16.5%)
2 Mineral fuels including oil $62.3 billion(16%)
3 Machinery including computers $30 billion(7.7%)
4 Gems, precious metals. $18.7 billion(4.8%)
5 Wood. $13.2 billion(3.4%)
6 Electrical machinery equipment $12.6 billion(3.2%)
7 Plastics, plastic articles. $12.1 billion(3.1%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft. $10.3 billion(2.6%)
9 Pharmaceuticals. $8.4 billion(2.2%)
10 Aluminum. $8.1 billion(2.1%)

[sumdumguy]

Top ten exports 2016 Canada (in usd)

1 Vehicles. $64.3 billion(16.5%)
2 Mineral fuels including oil $62.3 billion(16%)
3 Machinery including computers $30 billion(7.7%)
4 Gems, precious metals. $18.7 billion(4.8%)
5 Wood. $13.2 billion(3.4%)
6 Electrical machinery equipment $12.6 billion(3.2%)
7 Plastics, plastic articles. $12.1 billion(3.1%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft. $10.3 billion(2.6%)
9 Pharmaceuticals. $8.4 billion(2.2%)
10 Aluminum. $8.1 billion(2.1%)

When I look at that list, I see US trade written all over most of the exports. NAFTA ( or trade with US anyway) is the fuel in the Canadian engine. Our federal government better be protecting that relationship with all their mite, not snubbing it.

[bucket]

What happened to that statement that Lyle Stewart made about the value of our agricultural products.... wasn't it like 15 billion?

AAFC says 55 billion in ag exports....hmmmmmm.

[RWT101]

You mean like the unreliable wind shown on this these graphs?

[URL="http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/"]http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/[/URL]

Bird choppers can almost always be counted on to take a vacation exactly when they are needed the most.

I have been watching this UK website for several years now and today’s graphs are not a exception.

Note how old king coal comes to the rescue again.

[RWT101]

Top ten exports 2016 Canada (in usd)

1 Vehicles. $64.3 billion(16.5%)
2 Mineral fuels including oil $62.3 billion(16%)
3 Machinery including computers $30 billion(7.7%)
4 Gems, precious metals. $18.7 billion(4.8%)
5 Wood. $13.2 billion(3.4%)
6 Electrical machinery equipment $12.6 billion(3.2%)
7 Plastics, plastic articles. $12.1 billion(3.1%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft. $10.3 billion(2.6%)
9 Pharmaceuticals. $8.4 billion(2.2%)
10 Aluminum. $8.1 billion(2.1%)

Have you got the list for the top ten imports also?

Thanx

[tweety]

Top ten exports 2016 Canada (in usd)

1 Vehicles. $64.3 billion(16.5%)
2 Mineral fuels including oil $62.3 billion(16%)
3 Machinery including computers $30 billion(7.7%)
4 Gems, precious metals. $18.7 billion(4.8%)
5 Wood. $13.2 billion(3.4%)
6 Electrical machinery equipment $12.6 billion(3.2%)
7 Plastics, plastic articles. $12.1 billion(3.1%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft. $10.3 billion(2.6%)
9 Pharmaceuticals. $8.4 billion(2.2%)
10 Aluminum. $8.1 billion(2.1%)

Your list is ridiculous!!

Domestic Agri exports is 56 billion

[URL="http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/industry-markets-and-trade/international-agri-food-market-intelligence/canada/?id=1410072148230"]http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/industry-markets-and-trade/international-agri-food-market-intelligence/canada/?id=1410072148230[/URL]

[Hamloc]

Don't shoot the messenger. I googled Canada's exports. www.worldstopexports.com came up. That is where I got the list.

[bucket]

Thanks tweety for the link...