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[bucket]

What happened to that statement that Lyle Stewart made about the value of our agricultural products.... wasn't it like 15 billion?

AAFC says 55 billion in ag exports....hmmmmmm.

[RWT101]

You mean like the unreliable wind shown on this these graphs?

[URL="http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/"]http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/[/URL]

Bird choppers can almost always be counted on to take a vacation exactly when they are needed the most.

I have been watching this UK website for several years now and today’s graphs are not a exception.

Note how old king coal comes to the rescue again.

[RWT101]

Top ten exports 2016 Canada (in usd)

1 Vehicles. $64.3 billion(16.5%)
2 Mineral fuels including oil $62.3 billion(16%)
3 Machinery including computers $30 billion(7.7%)
4 Gems, precious metals. $18.7 billion(4.8%)
5 Wood. $13.2 billion(3.4%)
6 Electrical machinery equipment $12.6 billion(3.2%)
7 Plastics, plastic articles. $12.1 billion(3.1%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft. $10.3 billion(2.6%)
9 Pharmaceuticals. $8.4 billion(2.2%)
10 Aluminum. $8.1 billion(2.1%)

Have you got the list for the top ten imports also?

Thanx

[tweety]

Top ten exports 2016 Canada (in usd)

1 Vehicles. $64.3 billion(16.5%)
2 Mineral fuels including oil $62.3 billion(16%)
3 Machinery including computers $30 billion(7.7%)
4 Gems, precious metals. $18.7 billion(4.8%)
5 Wood. $13.2 billion(3.4%)
6 Electrical machinery equipment $12.6 billion(3.2%)
7 Plastics, plastic articles. $12.1 billion(3.1%)
8 Aircraft, spacecraft. $10.3 billion(2.6%)
9 Pharmaceuticals. $8.4 billion(2.2%)
10 Aluminum. $8.1 billion(2.1%)

Your list is ridiculous!!

Domestic Agri exports is 56 billion

[URL="http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/industry-markets-and-trade/international-agri-food-market-intelligence/canada/?id=1410072148230"]http://www.agr.gc.ca/eng/industry-markets-and-trade/international-agri-food-market-intelligence/canada/?id=1410072148230[/URL]

[Hamloc]

Don't shoot the messenger. I googled Canada's exports. www.worldstopexports.com came up. That is where I got the list.

[bucket]

Thanks tweety for the link...

[RWT101]

Thanx Tweety

From your data


2014 Vehicles exported $66B and imported $77B - net loss of $10 bil

2016 Vehicles exported $85B and imported $89B - net loss $4B



2014 Oil etc exported $142B and imported $52 - net gain $90B.

2016 Oil etc exported $82B and imported $33B - net gain $50B.


Ontario and Quebec have ALL the vehicle production.

The West has almost all of the oil production.

Ask yourself, what asshats would want to throw sand in the gears of the oil industry when it contributes net to the country like that?

And why should Quebec be getting ANY money thru equalization from western Canada oil industry salaries when they despise the oil industry and block it every chance they get?

[tweety]

Ask yourself, what asshats would want to throw sand in the gears of the oil industry when it contributes net to the country like that?

Are you saying the oil industry needs billions in tax cuts and dollar handouts for the obscenely wealthy - or it will crumble?

Fortunately as the "oil only" generation moves into the old folks homes, things will change. Might take a hundred years, but it will change. Some are just a little more impatient then others.

RWT, also, if Canada really gave a shit about making money we wouldn't be sending crude to Texas and then ship it back to Alberta as gasoline and diesel. We would value add here. The oil industry in Canada is the US oil industry - which is why the US calls Canada's reserves, national supply.

[shtferbrains]

I thought Allen Blakeney was dead.

Maybe tweety is his reincarnation and we can go back to the 70's and if we don't like how multinationals do business we can just nationalize them for the good of all ( Or is that Al? ).

I'm to old to hit the road looking for a job.

Bin there Done that!

[chuckChuck]

I thought Allen Blakeney was dead.

Maybe tweety is his reincarnation and we can go back to the 70's and if we don't like how multinationals do business we can just nationalize them for the good of all ( Or is that Al? ).

I'm to old to hit the road looking for a job.

Bin there Done that!

Statoil worked well in Norway! One of the best places in the world to live and a Trillion dollars in savings from oil and gas! Our record on resource development is one of low royalty rates , giving most of the benefits away and not planning for the long term.

[grassfarmer]

You mean like the unreliable wind shown on this these graphs?

[URL="http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/"]http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/[/URL]

Bird choppers can almost always be counted on to take a vacation exactly when they are needed the most.

I have been watching this UK website for several years now and today’s graphs are not a exception.

Note how old king coal comes to the rescue again.

What is interesting about those figures is how well coal has been replaced, and how well the different generation systems balance each other. Coal being #3 trailing gas and nuclear generation. The other thing notable is that, like agriculture in Europe, it's all about chasing the subsidy! Coal plants co-firing biomass so they qualify for the renewable subsidy. Hydro, wind and biogas plants of course also qualify for the subsidy. There are a lot of unhappy farmers in Scotland due to the subsidized biogas plants removing feedstuffs from the marketplace.

[RWT101]

Ah yes, the good old Norway comparison again.

Here's how hard Norway had to work to earn its oil money fortune from 1966.

http://www.worldoil.com/news/2017/4/4/npd-reports-6-000-wells-on-the-norwegian-shelf

Only 6000 total wells drilled in 51 years.

Do you realize that Alberta alone has drilled over 12000 wells in 1 (ONE) year?

Gee, I wonder if that would be any more work than 100 wells per year?