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    #11
    Grass I have to agree a tiny bit about everyine complaining about politicians and policies constantly. It gets old. Ritz Did lots of questionable stuff so is trudeau. These politicians we elect behave in a way that the majority of voters dictate. It is scary to me that the majority in this country seems to want to tax wealth creators into extinction. The standard of living we have here in Canada is possible because of wealth creators. Not history professors, not artists, not politicions and certainly not environmental lobbyists.

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      #12
      Grass it’s painfully obvious that yourself and a few others on here simply despise modern grain farms . Also there is a resentment in a lot of the posts to those who do well grain farming .
      That’s where a lot of the b/S is directed at.

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        #13
        Grass do you have clean burning Teir 4 engines in your chore tractors ? Or do you run your operation like the Amish by feeding your animals with horses and donkeys as to not burn a drop of fossil fuels ? Do you have a vehicle ? Is it electric?

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          #14
          Assholes and hemorrhoids.... hemorrhoids irritate assholes...... sometimes you're the asshole..... sometimes you're the hemorrhoid.

          I'm versatile and can be both.

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            #15
            Personally Grassfarmer, I think you go out of your way to stir the pot and that makes for good entertainment. What I don't understand is the same group that pushes for less C02 emissions, leaving coal and oil in the ground, taxing carbon, also pushes and promotes eating less meat. They want everyone to be a vegetarian. Grassfarmer you seem to live in this constant state of denial that because in your mind you are at the very least carbon neutral and because of that you will always be able to produce beef. Now I do agree that if a person works hard enough beef can be produced very efficiently but those in the environmental movement don't care. They want the production of meat by agriculture ended. In their opinion it produces to many greenhouse gases and uses to much water. I certainly appreciate that it must have taken a great deal of confidence to emigrate to Canada from Scotland but sometimes your outlook does make me shake my head. Have a good day😃

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              #16
              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
              Personally Grassfarmer, I think you go out of your way to stir the pot and that makes for good entertainment. What I don't understand is the same group that pushes for less C02 emissions, leaving coal and oil in the ground, taxing carbon, also pushes and promotes eating less meat. They want everyone to be a vegetarian. Grassfarmer you seem to live in this constant state of denial that because in your mind you are at the very least carbon neutral and because of that you will always be able to produce beef. Now I do agree that if a person works hard enough beef can be produced very efficiently but those in the environmental movement don't care. They want the production of meat by agriculture ended. In their opinion it produces to many greenhouse gases and uses to much water. I certainly appreciate that it must have taken a great deal of confidence to emigrate to Canada from Scotland but sometimes your outlook does make me shake my head. Have a good day😃
              Some people should get a brain and get a science education. They seemed to have missed the lessons on water cycle and photosynthesis. They would rather believe in fake science.

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                #17
                Hamloc, there are an awful lot of meat eating people in the world that are concerned about climate change and want to see reductions in C02 emissions. Your attempt to pigeon hole those concerned about environmental issues as a tiny, lunatic fringe group does not reflect reality.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                  Hamloc, there are an awful lot of meat eating people in the world that are concerned about climate change and want to see reductions in C02 emissions. Your attempt to pigeon hole those concerned about environmental issues as a tiny, lunatic fringe group does not reflect reality.
                  Grassfarmer, google:"What are the best ways to reduce your carbon footprint" on CBC news in science and technology. I apologize I am not tech savvy enough to put up the link, maybe somebody else can. You will see that recommending a vegetarian lifestyle is becoming a mainstream belief of the environmental movement!

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                    #19
                    Define "the environmental movement".

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                      Define "the environmental movement".
                      Did you read the article? I would define the environmental movement as those who are proponents of the climate change agenda. Anti oil, anti-pipeline, fans of big government, carbon taxes. As a farmer I am undoubtedly attempting not to harm nature but I am also thankful of the benefits and comforts accorded to me by modern technology. Most of what proponents of climate change propose will do very little to stop true environmental pollution and realistically due very little to change the environment. When I refer to true environmental pollution I refer to degradation of our water resources and actual noxious gases in our environment, C02 is not a noxious gas. I agree we need to more efficiently utilize our finite resources but taxing natural gas for necessities like heat just don't make sense to me.

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