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    #11
    It gets scary when governments consider, make, and enforce such domesticated animal carbon laws, but conveniently will exempt expansion promoters of wildlife from those same carbon tax laws, and by extension the Queen's herd.

    It's exactly like the climate accord exotic places junkets that gather plane loads of so interested leaders in protecting the world, but fail to see that their actions are setting piss poor examples for their populations.

    And then we have a few livestock ranchers that are so overjoyed with their neutral to positive actions for climate that both the environmental and opponents laugh at. Those are the true silly enablers of run away governments.

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      #12
      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
      Not a big deal as far as I can see. A few people talking about it - no taxes anywhere, no proposals even. It is correct that the issue must be considered in our attempts to tackle climate change. The interesting part will be to see what plans come forward - how they assess the relative contribution of various sectors and how any country might try to implement that. I don't disagree with the idea that per capita consumption of meat could go down in the developed world and the world would be a better place. Rising demand in the rest of the world would soak up any redundant production. With good beef being around $9/lb I don't see a big issue with getting consumers in wealthy first world countries to pay 25 or 50c/lb more for it. Like the carbon tax on fuel it's gone up and down more than that due to market factors anyway. If it limits consumption a little it's achieving it's goal.
      As a beef farmer when I go to the grocery store I wonder how anyone can afford beef. Grassfarmer, after reading this post it is abundantly clear to me that your political ideology it truly overriding your common sense and your business sense. I still maintain giving governments more money will not help the environment. The smartest people in our society are not in government!!

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        #13
        Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
        As a beef farmer when I go to the grocery store I wonder how anyone can afford beef. Grassfarmer, after reading this post it is abundantly clear to me that your political ideology it truly overriding your common sense and your business sense. I still maintain giving governments more money will not help the environment. The smartest people in our society are not in government!!
        Nothing wrong with my business sense Hamloc, any amount of money in the beef complex to pay for this.
        Your problem is likely the same as most other commodity guys - you've been getting cents on the $ for your production for too long. Problem is primary producers are not getting the share they deserve of the retail price.

        I remember years ago apologizing to a customer that their quarter beef was rather expensive when they came to pick it up - turns out they had been skiing in the Rockies the day before with their 3 kids. Between lift passes, ski hire and bits and pieces they had spent over $500 on the day out so thought my beef looked really cheap! I've never forgotten that lesson.

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          #14
          Look on the bright side, along with a meat tax the requirement for a hunting license and bag limits will probably be a thing of the past them wild ruminants are polluters also!

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            #15
            Undoubtedly the wild ungulate population should be considered in this whole equation. To do that we need to get the focus changed to an animal emission tax rather than a "meat tax".

            I think the Queen has got off for long enough relying on others feeding her herds - time to send her a bill for their emissions!

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              #16
              Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
              Undoubtedly the wild ungulate population should be considered in this whole equation. To do that we need to get the focus changed to an animal emission tax rather than a "meat tax".

              I think the Queen has got off for long enough relying on others feeding her herds - time to send her a bill for their emissions!
              And on that we can agree. Although I have a substantial feed Bill to send to her as well.

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                #17
                Grassy not everyone is a wealthy consumer of your products. Even the lower end of the spectrum enjoys a nice piece of beef now and again. Oh well guess you lobbied for a smaller market, good for you you're going to get it.
                Last edited by biglentil; Dec 12, 2017, 19:46.

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                  #18
                  Just wondering if your meat sales are federally inspected by the cfia.

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                    #19
                    its gotten real quiet here all of a sudden?

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                      #20
                      Yep Case, some of us have work to do.
                      The whole direct marketing business is built on Provincially inspected meat, typically from small town cut and wrap plants. The huge plants like Cargill and JBS are Federally inspected as they need that status to export. CFIA used to supply the Provincial inspection service to the provinces but no longer do in MB, SK or BC.

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