Taxes on meat to battle clmate change

[grassfarmer]

As a beef farmer when I go to the grocery store I wonder how anyone can afford beef. Grassfarmer, after reading this post it is abundantly clear to me that your political ideology it truly overriding your common sense and your business sense. I still maintain giving governments more money will not help the environment. The smartest people in our society are not in government!!

Nothing wrong with my business sense Hamloc, any amount of money in the beef complex to pay for this.
Your problem is likely the same as most other commodity guys - you've been getting cents on the $ for your production for too long. Problem is primary producers are not getting the share they deserve of the retail price.

I remember years ago apologizing to a customer that their quarter beef was rather expensive when they came to pick it up - turns out they had been skiing in the Rockies the day before with their 3 kids. Between lift passes, ski hire and bits and pieces they had spent over $500 on the day out so thought my beef looked really cheap! I've never forgotten that lesson.

[DaneG]

Look on the bright side, along with a meat tax the requirement for a hunting license and bag limits will probably be a thing of the past them wild ruminants are polluters also!

[grassfarmer]

Undoubtedly the wild ungulate population should be considered in this whole equation. To do that we need to get the focus changed to an animal emission tax rather than a "meat tax".

I think the Queen has got off for long enough relying on others feeding her herds - time to send her a bill for their emissions!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Undoubtedly the wild ungulate population should be considered in this whole equation. To do that we need to get the focus changed to an animal emission tax rather than a "meat tax".

I think the Queen has got off for long enough relying on others feeding her herds - time to send her a bill for their emissions!

And on that we can agree. Although I have a substantial feed Bill to send to her as well.

[biglentil]

Grassy not everyone is a wealthy consumer of your products. Even the lower end of the spectrum enjoys a nice piece of beef now and again. Oh well guess you lobbied for a smaller market, good for you you're going to get it.

[sofa.king]

Just wondering if your meat sales are federally inspected by the cfia.

[Guest]

its gotten real quiet here all of a sudden?

[grassfarmer]

Yep Case, some of us have work to do.
The whole direct marketing business is built on Provincially inspected meat, typically from small town cut and wrap plants. The huge plants like Cargill and JBS are Federally inspected as they need that status to export. CFIA used to supply the Provincial inspection service to the provinces but no longer do in MB, SK or BC.

[woodland]

Yep Case, some of us have work to do.
The whole direct marketing business is built on Provincially inspected meat, typically from small town cut and wrap plants. The huge plants like Cargill and JBS are Federally inspected as they need that status to export. CFIA used to supply the Provincial inspection service to the provinces but no longer do in MB, SK or BC.

I find it funny how provincial is only good for within said province. Something from "next door" is good enough for them but not us. "Free trade" isn't a reality even within our own country.

[Oliver88]

Grassy not everyone is a wealthy consumer of your products. Even the lower end of the spectrum enjoys a nice piece of beef now and again. Oh well guess you lobbied for a smaller market, good for you you're going to get it.

Oh come on now don't worry about the poor and low income people.....they are a minor part of the collateral damage that comes with carbon taxes.

Unfortunately worrying about poor people being able to afford food, heat there homes and travel places is beneath the heartless "green" crowd.
You have brought up an important point.

[Klause]

Yep Case, some of us have work to do.
The whole direct marketing business is built on Provincially inspected meat, typically from small town cut and wrap plants. The huge plants like Cargill and JBS are Federally inspected as they need that status to export. CFIA used to supply the Provincial inspection service to the provinces but no longer do in MB, SK or BC.

So who does now?


I know about the differences between federal and provincial inspection but have been out of the cattle loop for a while...


Is it still legal to have cattle butchered at your local abattoir and sell beef?

[grassfarmer]

So who does now?


I know about the differences between federal and provincial inspection but have been out of the cattle loop for a while...


Is it still legal to have cattle butchered at your local abattoir and sell beef?

Just similarly trained/qualified inspectors but hired directly by the Provincial Governments instead of having CFIA provide the service.

Yes, absolutely it's legal as long as it's inspected. You can sell to end users (consumers) but not to a retail store for example that would sell it on to their customers - that requires federal inspection. You can't sell out of Province as Woodland highlighted - although there is a loophole to that for a limited amount. You can still get un-inspected meat butchered but that is only for your own use and will be stamped "not for sale".