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    #25
    Carbon emissions are going up worldwide for the foreseeable future no matter what. It is baked in.
    About 200 coal fired plants in the world operating or being built with >2000MW rating. One in Canada. None is SK.
    We're in trouble

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      #26
      Horse thats nice its about the same as I would pay for mix with a 2 later bottle of coke. But what did you really do to help the environment.

      A house in Alberta requires heat to keep you warm at night from freezing so what did you get for your 2.22.

      Ah i can answer it nothing but the government got 2.22 to make stupid people feel like they are doing something to help the environment.

      You didn't turn your thermostat down to save on the 2.22 because maybe you just didn't want to freeze at night. Were not Hawaii where all i have to do is open the windows at night to first cool it off then close so i sleep nice.

      Try that in Shit hole Canada.

      So again like the above poster enlighten us on what you actually got or did for the 2.22.

      Again the Alberta and Fed Gov get some nice cash but what did you actually get and do to help the environment.


      NOTHING>

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        #27
        You can't win against stupid Horse. Carbon tax is going to ruin everyone and we can't afford it - except it's at such a low price that it's not going to work to help fight climate change which doesn't exist anyway - and we know that because no-one can measure anything anyway!

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          #28
          ok grass since your such a genius in your own mind,

          What has Horses 2.22 actually done for the environment.

          Please explain what it has done.

          He lives in Alberta did he shut his heating off for the month that would save him the 2.22 but unfortunately he would be very dead if not frozen his wife would kill him for being so f#$Kiong stupid.

          Second what did the 2.22 actually give the governments of canada.

          AH money.

          So again you can challenge and tell us all kinds of bullshit but what did he get or do to help the environment handing over 2.22 to the government.

          High im here from the government to help you.

          yea that always works.

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            #29
            Originally posted by Horse View Post
            Just got my gas bill for nov for house heating natural gas carbon tax $2.22. I think even sask3 could afford that.
            its all the charges you can't see ,like on the delivery of your food, exporting your farm produce , in fact everything that gets moved by truck , train ,or by you. its on your farm imports . everything you buy will be adjusted up to account for your useless tax . and then when we expire there will be carbon tax on the fuel to finish the job . but really , did you turn the heat down because of carbon tax ? or is it just more money so libtards can send 5 or 600 useless assholes to the next paris accord or wherever instead of 350????

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              #30
              For the average Joe it won't matter ....will be factored into the CPI and wages will increase....

              Where it gets nauseating is that that extra 2.22 gets put on someone else for everything you buy.....we have no one to pass those costs onto....

              Everyone or every company has the ability to pass costs on to the consumer....

              Even grain companies heating bill will factor into their basis ....FFS....

              And carbon tax will increase freight rates....the most environmentally friendly way of moving bulk products. ....

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                #31
                Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                Sure, and no population growth or housing growth or any other growth that would use more carbon between 2008 and 2014 either right Hamloc. And if you forgot, we had a recession in 2009 that also impacted the oil industry. And are you actually claiming it is only the oil industry that contributes to CO2. So if the oil industry revenue was halved, why did BC economy keep growing? Talk about cherry picking data.
                I was simply demonstrating that not all aspects of BC's economy improved. I was also pointing out that a carbon tax hurts oil and gas production which will concern some others it will not. As for BC's economy I would say real estate appreciation has contributed a great deal to their economic growth. BC's carbon tax originally was revenue neutral. Personal and corporate taxes were reduced to compensate for revenue from the carbon tax. Now that the NDP are in power this is no longer the case. There are no revenue neutral carbon taxes in Canada now. Just a money grab. As for emissions, no I am not claiming that it is only the oil industry contributing to C02 emissions. In fact if you go on the one sight you will see that emissions from transportation rose through the whole time period and continue to do so.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by Horse View Post
                  Just got my gas bill for nov for house heating natural gas carbon tax $2.22. I think even sask3 could afford that.
                  Don't forget the carbon tax goes up to $30/ton next month. Eventually to $50. That makes your Nov amount $5.55. Maybe not much but that's only one month and only one of many instances where you have to pay extra for something you can not do without. All ads up and like others mentioned how has your consumption changed?

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                    #33
                    Originally posted by GDR View Post
                    Don't forget the carbon tax goes up to $30/ton next month. Eventually to $50. That makes your Nov amount $5.55. Maybe not much but that's only one month and only one of many instances where you have to pay extra for something you can not do without. All ads up and like others mentioned how has your consumption changed?

                    But isn't that nice? All adds up is right!

                    And the more people who pay that $5.55/month, the more trips climate barbie can take jetting around the world to exotic locations for "climate conferences!!!

                    See, your tax dollars at work!

                    Bwahahahaha!
                    Last edited by burnt; Dec 15, 2017, 12:28.

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                      #34
                      In the case of B.C. it’s kind of a “do as I say not do as I do” or maybe a “ shoot shovel and shut up” situation.

                      https://dogwoodbc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Coal-BCs-Dirty-Secret-web.pdf

                      I have also read reports that Vancouver is adding capacity for loading coal on to ships to facilitate shipping American coal which is not allowed to be loaded on to ships leaving the U.S.
                      Last edited by redleaf; Dec 15, 2017, 10:10.

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                        #35
                        How nice, screw with data, figures, only way to BAFFLE/SCARE the public into their agenda...
                        ALL the facts are NOT what they seem!

                        For its emissions target, the BC government does not include the emissions from the burning of coal mined here. Mining, processing, transporting and burning BC coal produce a staggering amount of heat-trapping pollution. The total global pollution from BC coal in 2008—a total of 61.4 million tonnes
                        —almost doubles BC’s reported contribution to global warming.

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                          #36
                          Hmmm , imagine that

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