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    #13
    $110 per cow-just dairy cows, the rest don't fart unless provoked. The world is cracking up.

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      #14
      Grass farmer this was dated 1st may 2017 so still just a proposal, once it passes in EU it will be a tsnami across western countries this "meat tax" geez gonna hurt low income earners cause you can be your bottom dollar beef producers will fight to have it across all meat not just beef, hence lessening impact on beef producers. And why not i guess. Were does it all stop slaughter police visiting my farm when we kill our own livestock for our own consumption....... A real hard one this one.

      The Danish Council of Ethics is recommending that the country impose a tax on meat to fight global warming. The group says that its research finds cattle account for about 10% of global greenhouse gas emissions. Food production taken as a whole — which includes transportation, irrigation, fertilizers, and refrigeration — is responsible for nearly 30% of all emissions, the council says. The Council concluded that “climate change is an ethical problem.”

      Danes are “ethically obliged” to change their eating habits, the statement added and claimed that it is “unproblematic” to cut out beef and still enjoy a healthy and nutritious diet. The proposed tax would apply initially to only to beef but the idea of a tax to promote a sustainable lifestyle could be extended to other meats and indeed all foods in coming years, with those having the greatest impact on climate change being taxed at the highest rates.

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        #15
        If breathing was optional they'd probably tax that too.

        Hard to believe some of the posts.....the "luxury" of eating.....

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          #16
          Grassy "Taxing the rancher per head isn't going to increase the retail price of beef so there is no way it could work."
          Sounds counter intuitive. Any credible economic analysis to support the idea that increasing production costs has no effect on prices?

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            #17
            Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
            Grassy "Taxing the rancher per head isn't going to increase the retail price of beef so there is no way it could work."
            Sounds counter intuitive. Any credible economic analysis to support the idea that increasing production costs has no effect on prices?
            The costs(taxes) have to be passed up the chain to the consumer to curb consumption. Do distilleries and brewers pay the tax? Tobacco farmers pay the taxes on cigarettes?

            Hard to believe this discussion is even taking place

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              #18
              I thought that ranching was carbon negative because of all the grass involved sucking up carbon.

              And who has to pay the tax on the deer and elk farts.

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                #19
                Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
                Grassy "Taxing the rancher per head isn't going to increase the retail price of beef so there is no way it could work."
                Sounds counter intuitive. Any credible economic analysis to support the idea that increasing production costs has no effect on prices?
                Ranch level economic analysis tells me that increased production costs sometimes affects prices negatively, sometimes positively and sometimes not at all. Certainly can't be relied upon in this case to drive retail beef price up if a rancher were to be charged $xx per cow. Think of a drought situation - hay goes through the roof, cattle price goes through the floor.

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                  #20
                  Drought and hay.

                  What is through the roof for you? Your example was two cents a pound stacked in your yard by the neighbor. Someone was taken, badly.

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                    #21
                    Originally posted by checking View Post
                    Drought and hay.

                    What is through the roof for you? Your example was two cents a pound stacked in your yard by the neighbor. Someone was taken, badly.
                    No clue what that was supposed to mean.

                    Hay going through the roof is when it's 10 cents a lb or more as it was in 2015 in Alberta.

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                      #22
                      Costs of production always get built into retail prices. Simple supply and demand. Not simple enough for socialists apparently.

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                        #23
                        Originally posted by Happytrails View Post
                        Costs of production always get built into retail prices. Simple supply and demand. Not simple enough for socialists apparently.
                        Ah the delusion of the "free market". Tell all the grain guys to treat themselves to new combines then - nothing to worry about - retail price of bread will go up and the extra money will all find it's way back to their pockets....or not!

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                          #24
                          Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                          Ah the delusion of the "free market". Tell all the grain guys to treat themselves to new combines then - nothing to worry about - retail price of bread will go up and the extra money will all find it's way back to their pockets....or not!
                          Wow. Breathtaking refusal to recognize the most basic rules of economics. To address your example the price of bread won't be forced up unless all wheat growers are forced to purchase new combines.

                          The market is always king...but sometimes you have to look beyond the end of your nose to see that. Soviet Russia was the definitive experiment on the ability of the command economy to generate production.

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