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    #11
    Central Alberta -27 with a wind chill of -33 right now. Just discovered a cool website. The Alberta Electrical System Operator(AESO) has a cool sight that shows up to the minute supply and demand. Total generation capacity is roughly 16600 MW. Consumption the last few days has ranged from 10500 MW up to 11500 MW at the highest point. Wind generation capacity is 1445 MW. Looked at it a bit ago and the wind power being generated was 4 MW and that is not a mis print. Over the last 5 days the highest I have seen the wind is 145 MW. There are 20 wind installations listed most are producing 0 when I look. In most cases over 95% of the power being produced is from coal and natural gas roughly 50% split. At present 8.5% of generation capacity is wind. Highest I have seen it produce at is at 10% of capacity. So even if 30% of our generation capacity was wind it would amount to sweet f#*k all. The Brooks solar farm I thought was finished(15 MW) but I have yet to see it produce a single watt. So when it is cold with no wind renewable energy is a proven bust!!!! For those who think I am full of shit, Google it, read it and weep😩

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      #12
      Mallee , 90% of the rural homes around here are heated with natural gas , probably 9% heating diesel and 1 percent wood . The odd guy uses electric heat or an outdoor furnace using coal. Very rare tho

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        #13
        Thank Grant Devine for a province wide natural gas distribution system in Saskatchewan during his premiership.

        Bucket is correct. Little to no vision since then, and solar and wind just don't cut it in this environment.

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          #14
          Originally posted by malleefarmer View Post
          Some warmth for you. 5th and 6th jan
          [ATTACH]2420[/ATTACH]
          Geez I broke into a sweat just reading that...

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            #15
            Just looked again at the AESO sight. Out of 1445 potential MW production wind is producing 1 MW. 1 out of 20 wind farms are producing and only 1 MW out of 88 at that sight. Question for fans of renewables. Are you willing to freeze in the dark at -30? At 1 MW even if you had battery storage it wouldn't amount to much. Even if the electricity is cheap you can't buy what doesn't exist lol!!!

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              #16
              Originally posted by checking View Post
              Thank Grant Devine for a province wide natural gas distribution system in Saskatchewan during his premiership.

              Bucket is correct. Little to no vision since then, and solar and wind just don't cut it in this environment.
              Absolutely, Thank You Grant, our furnaces work great and cheap. Very reliable whether cloudy or DARK!

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                #17
                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                Just looked again at the AESO sight. Out of 1445 potential MW production wind is producing 1 MW. 1 out of 20 wind farms are producing and only 1 MW out of 88 at that sight. Question for fans of renewables. Are you willing to freeze in the dark at -30? At 1 MW even if you had battery storage it wouldn't amount to much. Even if the electricity is cheap you can't buy what doesn't exist lol!!!
                A total JOKE but hellish expensive lesson for society. No doubt will be on the scrap heap of DUMB ideas....

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                  #18
                  My home town had one of those demo windmills ....it was taken down ....didn't notice it gone til the other day. ....

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                    #19
                    thank you greg selinger for putting mb hydro in massive debt, and giving us hydro rates that are expected to go up 7.5% per year (compounded) for the next several years. At least it created lots of high paying short term union jobs and union dues. very sparse nat gas distribution in rual mb

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                      #20
                      I could be wrong but maybe hydro is left out of equalization so Manitoba might be in good shape.....

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