Permission to Hunt on Farmland ?

[bucket]

Here is the story from years ago....deer hunting season....one group on east side of pasture on gravel road heading west ...asked them wtf are you doing ....hunting they said ...I said you don't have permission. ...their response is its not posted....ok....

5 minutes later

Go to the west side and another group is heading east from highway....wtf are you guys doing ....hunting. ...you don't have permission and are you with the guys coming at you from the east....nope and it's not posted...


I looked at the guy and said well shoot at each other....

Stupid ignorant ****s. ...both groups....

And guess who's fault it would be if they did shoot each other....


A solution is every hunter has to buy an RM map and it's color coded as to hunting. ...and permission and routes have to be discussed with landowner prior to hunting...

Some guys are out a month in advance asking....can't say no because they are proactive and there is usually a gift....

[sk_wheatking]

Here is the story from years ago....deer hunting season....one group on east side of pasture on gravel road heading west ...asked them wtf are you doing ....hunting they said ...I said you don't have permission. ...their response is its not posted....ok....

5 minutes later

Go to the west side and another group is heading east from highway....wtf are you guys doing ....hunting. ...you don't have permission and are you with the guys coming at you from the east....nope and it's not posted...


I looked at the guy and said well shoot at each other....

Stupid ignorant ****s. ...both groups....

And guess who's fault it would be if they did shoot each other....


My solution is every hunter has to buy an RM map and it's color coded as to hunting. ...and permission and routes have to be discussed with landowner prior to hunting...

Some guys are out a month in advance asking....can't say no because they are proactive and there is usually a gift....

[sk_wheatking]

I presented this idea to one of the rm's I have land in. It was turned down flat. Zero interest in it whatsoever.

[sumdumguy]

Far as I am concerned, the owner, renter or taxpayer own the land and possess enjoyment of same, not the government or any unauthorized person. When I am King, they will have sole rights to the use of the land and anything he has fed on it. If farmers won’t enforce their rights and make a motion at every RM annual meeting, I guess we’ll let any gun-toting funseeker free reign. I don’t appreciate stray bullets that travel much furrher than one can see, flying around the countryside and through farmyards. If it seems like you have woke a sleeping bear, maybe you did.

[Oliver88]

Unfortunately times have changed and respect isn’t there like it was 20 years ago for city or non-farmers hunting or snowmobiling. Last year hundreds of farmers found out how “No trespassing” or “No Snowmobiling” signs worked....when they had crop left in the field!!
Technically the RCMP will press charges on anyone who drives a snowmobile across your land without permission but you have to catch the trespasser and pass on the name.

Outfitters claiming rights to an entire RM while a farmer gets a fine for charging for hunting access or doing his own guiding is just ridiculous. No farmer should let outfitters on their property and this would end quickly.

[Sheepwheat]

I hunt. I post my land. I hunt on no one else’s, I have more than enough habitat and game.

I made Big no hunting signs. You can not miss them, there is no excuse if you do. I have game cameras, and if you are caught, I will press charges.

My problem or idea, is along these lines as a hunter. I think we need hunting on foot only laws. Cruising around a bush honking your horn is not hunting. Cruising the roads during the rut and blasting deer or whatever from the truck is not hunting either. Get off the arses and walk like a real hunter...

I also think farmers who maintain prime habitat, should have priority in the big game draw, above those who push every stick on their land. That would weed out a pile of hunters, and make it more fair and provide some incentives to keep land intact and virgin.

[Guest]

I hunt. I post my land. I hunt on no one else’s, I have more than enough habitat and game.

I made Big no hunting signs. You can not miss them, there is no excuse if you do. I have game cameras, and if you are caught, I will press charges.

My problem or idea, is along these lines as a hunter. I think we need hunting on foot only laws. Cruising around a bush honking your horn is not hunting. Cruising the roads during the rut and blasting deer or whatever from the truck is not hunting either. Get off the arses and walk like a real hunter...

I also think farmers who maintain prime habitat, should have priority in the big game draw, above those who push every stick on their land. That would weed out a pile of hunters, and make it more fair and provide some incentives to keep land intact and virgin.

in fact it is the complete opposite , hardly anyone local gets drawn for moose or elk in zone #43 here. so last year my son in law applied for 3 from saskatoon and me . we got drawn , first time ever applying . how in the f#@k does that work ????

[the big wheel]

I think that with today's technology when you are permitted to hunt in an area not where you live you should be equipped with a gps device that tracks where you are where you went. Would solve the driving in he crop thing pretty fast. If you get caught without it on you you go home hunt is over.

[the big wheel]

Also should be posted live on a cell phone app so that the farmers and other residents know which area or behind which bushes you are hunting. Could have saved more than a few lives already. That one area we farm it's bloody crazy those first few days amazing more people don't get hurt.

[grassfarmer]

Grassfarmer, this must be an issue that even you must have had in Europe. From what I have read in the past isn't trespassing a serious problem there. People showing up from urban areas and having a picnic in a cropped field? Squatting on private land and nothing can be done? Or am I wrong.

It's a rather different set up there. The Queen doesn't own the wildlife there - other than retaining most of the rights to salmon fishing and gold mining in Scotland. So as landowners we could charge people to "hunt" on our land which was shoot pheasant, partridge, rabbits, hares, ducks. In other areas they hunt red and roe deer and of course grouse the proceeds of which all went into the landowners pocket. Big business in some areas like the highlands where the grouse and deer shooting is the #1 priority on many estates - far more important than sheep or cattle. I see recently the Scottish Government introduced a tax based on the assessed value of the shoot, whether the landowner actually lets people hunt or not.
We had trespass laws in Britain going back to the 1700s that were enforced more rigorously in England than in Scotland for some reason. Since 2003 there has been increased access to members of the public through "right to roam" legislation in Scotland which basically lets them wander most places as long as they aren't doing any harm. This has no doubt made the problems worse for farmers. It's been ridiculous for years in the high tourist areas like the Lake District where tourists would regularly walk through peoples farm yards and peer in their house windows! Problems of a small land base and a high population.