Elevator closure

[fjlip]

Not sure of size but Viterra 8 months away from opening a monster at Wadena. Loop track I hear.

[farming101]

Not sure of size but Viterra 8 months away from opening a monster at Wadena. Loop track I hear.

Goodbye Kelvington and some more 286,000 lb steel

[FarmerSmuck]

I wonder how many 50 car loafers are going to close in the near future? I can’t see the railways wanting to spot them. I know producers that haul to the Biggar facility. Talking with them it sounds like some of these smaller elevators buy more then some of the concretes. I think the Biggar area could use another concrete facility.

[ajl]

Cargill took down a fair size concrete elevator in Vegreville AB right on a CN main. Today Viterra is building 6 miles west and Grains Connect is building 1 mile east of town on the same rail line. Apparently there is enough grain to support an elevator or so it would seem. You would have to think that a facility that is paid for would be very competitive with a bit of upgrading than a brand new build but what do I know. Sometimes big companies are worse than the government. I realize that town taxes as the new ones are in the county is a factor and the monopoly railways may not do 50 car spots any more were likely factors.

[bucket]

OK I get the 50 car spot thing but if it could be expanded why not?


Plus as far as efficiency goes how does an elevator load in 24 hours and then have the train sit for 8 days....seems the gain in efficiency is lost if the train isn't hooked up the minute the last car is released. ...

On branch lines why not accumulate a 112 and put the train together. ..

[Rareearth]

Yes bucket good point.

Grower groups should measure that statistic. It is a meaning ful one, as rail and exporters use for there own benefit to consolidate and monopolize

[Klause]

OK I get the 50 car spot thing but if it could be expanded why not?


Plus as far as efficiency goes how does an elevator load in 24 hours and then have the train sit for 8 days....seems the gain in efficiency is lost if the train isn't hooked up the minute the last car is released. ...

On branch lines why not accumulate a 112 and put the train together. ..

Local new high thruput not a grain family company got flax cars 3 weeks ago. Cp wanted them loaded that Sunday.


Cars still there today.


Who pays the employees over time for loading Sunday?

[bucket]

I also think from a safety point of view the railways should implement a new time frame for loading...if they know they are not picking up in 3 days allow the elevator reasonable time....

Weather is an excuse for the railways even after 125 years....

[farming101]

Then when the elevator has a unit train spot they have to go out and buy power to move the cars around even on a loop track.
Have loaded producer cars in 30-35 below weather only to have them sit on the siding for days and days. So much for just in time shipping

[bucket]

In talking to a viterra higher up after telling me I only did a small amount of dollar business with them last year....he wouldn't listen when I tried to tell him that eyebrow wasn't open past 4 pm or weekends and they kept it plugged for no good reason. ..

Using the lentil market is a pretty lame excuse considering they only bought lentils there for 2 years.....

Good thing they don't feel responsible for how the grain left their facilities ....by road it wasn't their responsibility to make sure truckers took a different secondary highway route of eyebrow with primary weights....so it was the truckers that ruined highway 42....not the viterra contract to truck grain eyebrow to raymore.


No worries about highways in viterra's mind because they pay lots of taxes ...we should all bow down to them....

I have spoke to arrogant people before but that conversation takes the cake....

[farmaholic]

Did he ask you what they could do to earn your business?

[bucket]

The marketing rep that informed of the closure on Friday said he think they will be competitive with prices....

So I asked about the extra fuel wear and tear storage required and how much more they are paying exactly....no answer.

Then I told him I also wouldn't mind a place to have a coffee and a bathroom after an hour and a half drive extra.....he laughed...I didn't think it was funny...because I have been in lineups longer than my drive in...