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    #13
    Not sure I would want to pencil in soybeans at sub 20 bpa to make money regardless of R1 or R2 patent varieties. Have not grown them and probably will not. Looking for good weather for barley harvest when you need rain for your soybeans. Not for me at the moment.

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      #14
      bucket et al, is it legal to buy R1's from a farmer neighbour who grew them, and plant and harvest the beans, considering you've never purchased any seed from Monsanto yourself?
      can you replant the seed the following year if you purchased R1 seed from that neighbour?

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        #15
        R1s are off patent....

        Or so I have been told....but don't kid yourself their are guys keeping the newer varieties....

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          #16
          Why don’t they grow more soybeans and corn in Ukraine and Russia if they are the commodity kings?

          Logistics? They are close to the market.

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            #17
            If soybeans are doing that poorly in our climate why not just go faba beans? Supposed to be quite forgiving to most things except to dry and weeds. And sell for a lot less right now. I assume you can keep your own seed?

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              #18
              If your area rarely gets july aug rains, it will be tuff to grow beans, stick with peas. beans do well in s mb because of regular rainfall.

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                #19
                Originally posted by Rareearth View Post
                Why don’t they grow more soybeans and corn in Ukraine and Russia if they are the commodity kings?

                Logistics? They are close to the market.
                They're working on it. Oh, and get out of the way

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                  #20
                  R1's are a non starter here. You'd grow wall to wall Kochia. 25 years of chemfallow on significant acres here means nearly ever Kochia within a 120mi radius is group 2, and 9 resistant. Small doses of group 4s in chemfallow followed up with group 4 in crop the next year means slight resistance to group 4 is now showing up. Only other option would be high rates of edge granular, but lack of competition in soybeans compared to something like yellow mustard means Kochia would thrive later in the season. And unlike lentils which are burning down about the time late Kochia starts to find it's stride means they don't compete for scarce water resources in late July and August like soy desperately needs.


                  Maybe I'm missing something but seed royalties on R2s on top of unreliable late season moisture kill this crop as an option for me.

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                    #21
                    Helmsdale, I think Authority is registered for soybeans and is supposedly pretty good on Kochia. A liquid applied in the spring before seeding or crop emergence and needs rain to activate it. "Always read and follow label directions"

                    Anyone try it on soybeans. We use it on flax and sometimes peas..... not cheap though.

                    Group 14 (Sulfentrazone).

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                      #22
                      $110/acre for R2 seed.
                      10 bpa of soybeans to cover seed...better have a good yield.

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                        #23
                        $ 110 per acre for RR2 Seed, would include, seed treatment, liquid Innoculant on seed and granular in furrow.

                        Bare seed would be about $75.00. There will be some seed quality issues with all soybean seed this year, as much was harvested very dry, and seed damage was common.

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                          #24
                          In terms of Kochia control, Authority is registered pre-seed on soybeans, Sulfentrazone is a group 14 herbicide with exceptional activity on Kochia. Some US labels (Spartan) mention 2 years activity on Kochia.

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