Future looks bright...

[Horse]

Horse, do you actually think a carbon tax is a good idea?

If yes, what positive impact will it have?

NO I don't like taxes ,carbon or others but I do realize govs need money to operate I do take offence to how they spend it. I just get tired of the same old poor me shit that some on here spout,a new song sheet would be refreshing, every Canadian is paying and the fact farm fuel is exempt will give the rest of society more to complain about agriculture.

[bucket]

Even Tim Hortons can raise the price of coffee and donuts to absorb the extra costs....

Farmers can't and it's fair to say they are a pretty big part of this country's economy....destroy that and see how the country does. ...


Easier to keep a few peasant farmers than a farm the size of bombardier who lives on taxpayers whether they need it or not....and by extension Canadian taxpayers are subsidizing Airbus.

[chuckChuck]

Even Tim Hortons can raise the price of coffee and donuts to absorb the extra costs....

Farmers can't and it's fair to say they are a pretty big part of this country's economy....destroy that and see how the country does. ...


Easier to keep a few peasant farmers than a farm the size of bombardier who lives on taxpayers whether they need it or not....and by extension Canadian taxpayers are subsidizing Airbus.

The reason some farmers aren't making much money has little to do with taxation and has a lot more to do with low crop prices and the high cost of production. Agriville is full of complaints about the cost of machinery, inputs land and how low crop prices are.

[blackpowder]

Gonna agree with Horse over purple gas. Get rid of it.

[seldomseen]

What do you think will happen when the leader of a country says things like "The budget will balance it self" and his only motivation is to look good to the UN and the Leonardo DiCaprio's of the world.

[Oliver88]

NO I don't like taxes ,carbon or others but I do realize govs need money to operate I do take offence to how they spend it. I just get tired of the same old poor me shit that some on here spout,a new song sheet would be refreshing, every Canadian is paying and the fact farm fuel is exempt will give the rest of society more to complain about agriculture.

The carbon tax is supposed to be revenue neutral so it shouldn’t be a factor for operating the government bureaucracies. 🙈

If you think a civil servant in Edmonton pays a similar amount of carbon tax directly or indirectly to a grain farmer you need to look at your expenses closer.
Fuel is one of many items that will be affected.
This tax will hit rural, business owners the hardest and the civil servant workers the least.....

[tweety]

Horse, do you actually think a carbon tax is a good idea?

If yes, what positive impact will it have?

Oliver, what is the tax being used for besides rebates?

[Oliver88]

Oliver, what is the tax being used for besides rebates?

Likely depends on province but from what I see out of Alberta it would be:
-Hire civil servants to administer tax collections and redistribute the funds
-“Green projects” that will lead to higher electricity costs. Subsidized electric cars.
-Advertising budget to remind Albertans to reduce consumption of beef, etc. 😂
-General Revenue likely takes some of the taxpayers $ as well.

End result is wealth distribution with no change in climate, weather, temperatures, GHG levels.....

[furrowtickler]

Likely depends on province but from what I see out of Alberta it would be:
-Hire civil servants to administer tax collections and redistribute the funds
-“Green projects” that will lead to higher electricity costs. Subsidized electric cars.
-Advertising budget to remind Albertans to reduce consumption of beef, etc. 😂
-General Revenue likely takes some of the taxpayers $ as well.

End result is wealth distribution with no change in climate, weather, temperatures, GHG levels.....

Agreed , in all of Canada will be the same song sheet .

[furrowtickler]

Where is the money going to come from horse ????? The fairy god mother , tooth fairy ???

Again , someone answer this ... the amount of money need will absolutely kill the middle class . It will not come from those with the ability to actually pay for it .

[Horse]

Again , someone answer this ... the amount of money need will absolutely kill the middle class . It will not come from those with the ability to actually pay for it .

Your a hard man to please ,not long ago on another thread you told me I should go to university and get that CEO job and earn 50 or so mill, then you defend all those using corps to reduce taxes, not the poor middle class,(what is middle class any way ) those in the 7 figure claim they aren't, those in 6 figure incomes aren't, the avg is suposibly at 55,000.
So if the gov is looking for money where do you think they should get it,can't get blood out of a stone.

[Stampsguy]

Again , someone answer this ... the amount of money need will absolutely kill the middle class . It will not come from those with the ability to actually pay for it .

Carbon tax hurts the poorest the most, more for food and heat and transit. But that’s the liberal way, tax the vulnerable and lie about it.

If they want to make a difference in emissions just ban private jets.