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    #25
    So I need to be a banker, market analist,financial investor,comodity trader, mechanic,plumer,,and so on the last time I checked those were all professions on there own.
    I think you have it backwards enjoy life style if that's what you call it, first then business, if not enough time pick a new business, there is always work for those willing to do it.
    If the CWB was so bad a business example why has almost all other business gone to a monopolistic example ie packers grain cos fret machinery,walmart, telecommunications, little guys keep piping up just to be shut down.
    And with my illiteracy and the help of spell check it makes for some new meanings of words.

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      #26
      And while your at it. Phone Winnipeg for permission to sell a % of those calves every once in a while.
      Out of feed? Too bad your not in a designated feed shortage area. You cannot legally sell your calves for market value if you do not get Winnipegs permission. And forget permission until everyone else in every region sells the same % of their herd.

      Ever notice, a lot of supporters had small % of total sales from board anyway?

      With respect, if no one wants your calves or your grain, you might be doing something wrong.
      (Caveat: Deepest respect for those much smarter than I who make their living with cattle. Illustrative questions only.)

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        #27
        OK,
        Do you blindly trust your bankers, lawyers, plumbers etc?
        Or do you keep yourself informed as to what theyre doing with your assets?
        Never ask questions or get quotes?

        None of the monopolies you mention are communistic.

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          #28
          Yes I ask questions but I am really out gunned, that is there buss I may know a little but I feel someone who studies this for a living I am willing to give the devel his dues I don't feel the need to broker a deal to sell a boat load of beef of wheat

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            #29
            Contracted professionals have to explain the effects of their actions. And have reasonable attention to the job.
            ( Personally I love the saying, " A man can consider himself a success if he goes through life never having hired a lawyer!")

            I personally know of no farmer who brokers his own containers to China. (Klause?) But my peas did just that through a company, off combine. Illegal under the board.
            Under the board you would not have been allowed to sell more than 20 beef processed or other, off farm privately.
            Prior to the 70s you would not have been allowed to transport or sell your calves interprovincially.

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              #30
              BP before the 70s most of our calves went east mostly Ontario.

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                #31
                Aware of that. Merely pointing out that it was illegal for your board grains.

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                  #32
                  Originally posted by hobbyfrmr View Post
                  Of course there will be wall to wall canola. What else are farmers going to grow to make profit? Seriously, what else is there to grow for a profit?
                  Canola takes little to no talent to grow. Wheat it tougher to grow. This year our wheat is every bit as profitable as canola and once you get into a 3 year rotation yields of everything climb

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                    #33
                    Horse in my opinion in australia what killed single desk was not the principle but the cost of running it. Was obscene in the end apparently close to $40 per tonne and AWB had pool sales and cash sales and was a fair bit of smoke and mirrors.

                    But the advent of black sea becoming the big kahuna in the wheat market single desk in 2017 would have trouble against black sea a race to the bottom

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                      #34
                      Another comment from a trader freind who worked at awb and i quote if remember one conversation towards the end "its just so hard to sell a huge amount of wheat with only 2 single desks" meaning your and ours.

                      Maybe free markets here in austrakia dont have impediments like you guys being freight costs, availability and a orderly manner of handling freight, and lack of bulk handling storage facitlities, plus you have crazy weather, which causes freight disruptions.

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                        #35
                        No one misses the Single desk. Ask any farmer the new ways are taking some time to see whats going on and how we farmers fit with the system.

                        But go back to 2 dollar initial and get piss all grocery checks for two years then no final or oh look we did so good final payment.

                        No its dead leave it their.

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                          #36
                          Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
                          No one misses the Single desk. Ask any farmer the new ways are taking some time to see whats going on and how we farmers fit with the system.

                          But go back to 2 dollar initial and get piss all grocery checks for two years then no final or oh look we did so good final payment.

                          No its dead leave it their.
                          Now wheat is the hardest crop to market on the farm which isnt bad just different. Lots of little tricks played by elevator companies. For example this year some guys locked 8 dollar wheat 13.5 pro. When they locked protein spreads were 2-3 cents per tenth when they harvested 11 percent pr wheat spreads widened to 8 cents

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