OBOR and Where the Heck is Canada????

[Klause]

OBOR will become a commonplace term very quickly... It stands for One Belt, One Road.


It's China's extremely ambition empire building initiative. Trillions at play, and rail and ship infrastructure connecting Europe and Asia from Germany to the Philipines.


They had a huge summit this past spring... Many of the world's exporters were there.

One glaring exception. Canada wasn't even bothered to send a representative.

https://thediplomat.com/2017/05/belt-and-road-attendees-list/ https://thediplomat.com/2017/05/belt-and-road-attendees-list/


Somehow, Germany, the UK, US, Argentina, Brazil, Russia, and a whole pile of other nations where there... and Canada disappeared.



Honestly, you got SPGA guys "touring" pulse fractionation plants in China... do ya really think they'll be buying peas from Canada when there's a twinned rail line running into the FSU???

https://thediplomat.com/2017/05/belt-and-road-attendees-list/ https://thediplomat.com/2017/05/belt-and-road-attendees-list/

Below, find a list of confirmed attendees at China’s Belt and Road Forum, to be held in Beijing May 14-15. Sources are hyperlinked wherever possible; entries without hyperlinks are based on statements provided to The Diplomat.

Afghanistan: Unspecified minister-level delegation
Argentina: President Mauricio Macri
Australia: Trade Minister Steve Ciobo
Azerbaijan: Economy Minister Shahin Mustafayev
Bangladesh: Unspecified minister-level delegation
Belarus: President Alexander Lukashenko
Brazil: Secretary for Strategic Affairs Hussein Ali Kalout
Cambodia: Prime Minister Hun Sen
Chile: President Michelle Bachelet
China: President Xi Jinping
Czech Republic: President Milos Zeman
Egypt: Trade and Industry Minister Tarek Kabil
Ethiopia: Prime Minister Hailemariam Desalegn
Fiji: Prime Minister Josaia Voreqe Bainimarama
Finland: Minister of Transport and Communications of Finland Anne Berner
France: Jean-Pierre Raffarin, chairman of the Committee on Foreign Relations, Defense and Armed Forces in the French Senate
Germany: Minister of Economic Affairs Brigitte Zypries
Greece: Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras
Hungary: Prime Minister Viktor Orban
Indonesia: President Joko Widodo
Iran: Minister of Economy and Finance Ali Tayebnia
Italy: Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni
Japan: LDP Secretary General Toshihiro Nikai
Kazakhstan: President Nursultan Nazarbayev
Kenya: President Uhuru Kenyatta
Kyrgyzstan: President Almazbek Atambayev
Kuwait: Minister of the Amiri Diwan Affairs Sheikh Nasser Sabah Al-Ahmad Al-Jaber
Laos: President Bounnhang Vorachith
Malaysia: Prime Minister Najib Razak
Maldives: Economic Minister Mohamed Saeed
Mongolia: Prime Minister Jargaltulga Erdenebat
Myanmar: State Counselor Aung San Suu Kyi
Romania: Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Environment Gratiela Gavrilescu
Nepal: Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister Krishna Bahadur Mahara
New Zealand: Science and Innovation Minister Paul Goldsmith
North Korea: Confirmed to be sending an official delegation; the delegation will be led by Kim Yong-jae, the North Korean minister of external economic relations, according to a number of South Korean media reports
Pakistan: Prime Minister Muhammad Nawaz Sharif
Philippines: President Rodrigo Duterte
Poland: Prime Minister Beata Szydło
Russia: President Vladimir Putin
Saudi Arabia: Minister of Energy, Industry, and Mineral Resources Khalid Al-Falih
Serbia: Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic
Singapore: Minister for National Development and Second Minister for Finance Lawrence Wong
South Korea: Ambassador to China Kim Jang-soo; Park Byeong-seug, National Assembly member for the Democratic Party
Spain: Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy
Sri Lanka: Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe
Switzerland: President Doris Leuthard
Syria: unspecificed minister-level delegation
Thailand: five ministers: Minister of Foreign Affairs Don Pramudwinai, Minister of Transportation Arkhom Termpittayapaisith, Minister of Commerce Apiradi Tantraporn, Minister of Digital for Economy and Society Pichet Durongkaveroj, and Minister of Science and Technology Atchaka Sibunruang
Tunisia: Culture Minister Mohamed Zine El-Abidine
Turkey: President Recep Tayyip Erdogan
UAE: Dr. Sultan Ahmed Al Jaber, Minister of State and Group CEO of ADNOC
Ukraine: unspecified official delegation
United Kingdom: Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond
United States: Matt Pottinger, National Security Council senior director for Asia
Uzbekistan: President Shavkat Mirziyoyev
Vietnam: President Tran Dai Quang

[danny W1M]

Canada not welcome at TPP either, why have a west coast for exports then? Such a waste.

[farmaholic]

.....smoking pot in teepees with terrorists?

Edit, clarification......obliviously mired in the past and repatriating danger.

[Rareearth]

Commodity groups have limited full time employees.
Those who tour are relatively few, and limited - volunteers that give more time and knowledge then ever financially compensated for

The group boards are pressured not to spend, be frugal, cost effective
Invest close to home
Show returns on levees etc

The groups could have staff and tour 30 people around the word every day of the year, searching for opportunities, market intelligence, strategic alliances, investment, etc. It’s always difficult to establish priorities with limited dollars.

[15444]

Gotta love arrogant self-righteous Canucks who point fingers at Trump that he is isolating the US. I think Dumbo has taken it on like an ice bucket challenge. Except Trump has the population, buying and military power to make America great again, while Dumbo is just Dumbo - baked out his mind in the corner, staring at the sky in search of unicorns and rainbows.

[grassfarmer]

More fake news Klause!
Did a little digging and found this from the Canada Eurasia Russia Business Association among others "Pamela Goldsmith-Jones, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of International Trade, will be in Beijing, China, May 14-15, to represent Canada at the Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation." Probably got missed off the list you posted accidentally. Mountain out of a mole hill and all that!

[Klause]

More fake news Klause!
Did a little digging and found this from the Canada Eurasia Russia Business Association among others "Pamela Goldsmith-Jones, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of International Trade, will be in Beijing, China, May 14-15, to represent Canada at the Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation." Probably got missed off the list you posted accidentally. Mountain out of a mole hill and all that!

Lol. Secretary.


We send a secretary.


Never made it into any official lists. Or transcripts. So no... Canada was not represented.

Grassy I have contacts in the grain trade all over the world. It's pretty sad when I hear the same thing over and over again. Canada is hard to do business with and old news.

[grassfarmer]

Lol. Secretary.


We send a secretary.


Never made it into any official lists. Or transcripts. So no... Canada was not represented.

Grassy I have contacts in the grain trade all over the world. It's pretty sad when I hear the same thing over and over again. Canada is hard to do business with and old news.

Parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Trade. Might have been as well versed on the topic as the UK's chancellor of the exchequer or the US's National Security Council director or Tunisia's Culture Minister.
Fact is Canada was represented which is not what you claimed.
After the event the Chinese ambassador to Canada had a letter published in the "Hill Times" championing the success of the event and mentioning that Canada had attended and that he felt Canada could be a key contributor and beneficiary of the belt and road project. Nice try though!!

[Klause]

Parliamentary secretary to the Minister of Trade. Might have been as well versed on the topic as the UK's chancellor of the exchequer or the US's National Security Council director or Tunisia's Culture Minister.
Fact is Canada was represented which is not what you claimed.
After the event the Chinese ambassador to Canada had a letter published in the "Hill Times" championing the success of the event and mentioning that Canada had attended and that he felt Canada could be a key contributor and beneficiary of the belt and road project. Nice try though!!

LOL.


How many billions in investment did Canada walk away with?

A parliamentary secretary had no power to make deals.

As far as the UK. The country is dead. Economically and culturally. It just doesn't know it yet.

[Bowerpower]

It shows me that the rest of the world values investing in infrastructure and efficiency. Canada can’t even get a domestic pipeline approved or have any kind of plan for increasing rail/shipping

[SASKFARMER3]

Grass again you have no clue.

It’s nice that some farmer in Canada is a supporter of the stupidiest Canadian leader since Canada was formed.

But reality is we’re getting left behind in everything.

We are now a country that no one wants to do business with.

Thanks to a dope smoking idiot.

Again I have to give you credit you will stick with this guy till canada becomes a shit hole that trump talks about.

[Oliver88]

It shows me that the rest of the world values investing in infrastructure and efficiency. Canada can’t even get a domestic pipeline approved or have any kind of plan for increasing rail/shipping

Apparently Sockboy knows best.
NEB already approved Northern Gateway but Justin just said no because......
Trudeau added an extra level of upstream and downstream emission calculations for Energy East to be scrutinized, TransCanada withdrew application.

Meanwhile new cement plant was built in Quebec that is owned by some Bombardier interests.....it will not be scrutinized at all but that is okay.