Anybody have clearfield or conventional canola?

[Klause]

The thread topic is pretty boring, after all, why grow canola from the 90's with the easiest to form resistance Group 2.

Because a large portion of the world's population doesn't want genetically engineered incidences "doused" in chemicals.


Note I said clearfield OR conventional.

Genetic engineering could have removed the need for synthetic N fertilizer, fungicides.


It could mean the end of fusarium, pythium... pulse root rots.


Salinity and alkalinity tolerance. Drought tolerance. Increased nutrition profiles.


Instead, what did we use this tech for? So we can spend more money spraying pesticides...


Monsanto/Bayer/et al blew it. Short term profit long term disaster.

[Klause]

As far as using CRISPR for editing crops... yeah that's great, except you need to get it approved and allowed for use in Canada...


The chances of doing that if you aren't FP Genetics, Secan, or any of the other leaches? Pretty much 0.


Thanks to progressive governments both liberal and conservative, we have completely destroyed our public breading system.


We know spend taxpayer money at CDC and AC sites & researches, so they develop a variety... then sell this variety for a pitance to bottom feeders like Secan FP et al who "license" it to their growers.


Those varieties were paid for by Canadian funds... much like US varieties that get developed by land bank universities. Somehow we then made it so another layer can extract profit from it.


It's one thing SPGA got right... at least i's producer money funding public varietal research, and it's a producer organization that controls the varieties.


In Canada it's now a privilege to save your own seed - not a right anymore.


In the US, Section 113 of the PVPA

Except to the extent that such action may constitute an infringement under subsections (3) and (4) of section
111,
it shall not infringe any right hereunder for a person to save seed produced by the person from seed
obtained, or descended from seed obtained, by authority of the owner of the variety for seeding purposes and
use such saved seed in the production of a crop for use on the farm of the person, or for sale as provided in this
section. A bona fide sale for other than reproduc
tive purposes, made in channels usual for such other
purposes, of seed produced on a farm either from seed obtained by authority of the owner for seeding purposes
or from seed produced by descent on such farm from seed obtained by authority of the owner for seeding
purposes shall not constitute an infringement.

[furrowtickler]

Because a large portion of the world's population doesn't want genetically engineered incidences "doused" in chemicals.


Note I said clearfield OR conventional.

Genetic engineering could have removed the need for synthetic N fertilizer, fungicides.


It could mean the end of fusarium, pythium... pulse root rots.


Salinity and alkalinity tolerance. Drought tolerance. Increased nutrition profiles.


Instead, what did we use this tech for? So we can spend more money spraying pesticides...


Monsanto/Bayer/et al blew it. Short term profit long term disaster.

Agreed , but they knew exactly what they were doing .
Hopefully their grip can be broken, for the sake of sustainable crop production.

[tweety]

Klause, farmers never had the right, only the priviledge. Ever.

It won't matter what GMO is used for, the organic industry needs it to market their crap. Never was a safety issue.

So some farmers will profit off the ignorance and lies, right Klause?

[Klause]

Klause, farmers never had the right, only the priviledge. Ever.

It won't matter what GMO is used for, the organic industry needs it to market their crap. Never was a safety issue.

So some farmers will profit off the ignorance and lies, right Klause?

Wrong.


The law originally said RIGHT...

Farmers are morons.

We keep trying to tell consumers what they should want... so it matches with what is easy for us.

Only industry in the world where the customer is wrong and we need to keep telling them that... And the big ag companies have done a great job of getting farmers to do their PR work for them...


Give consumers what they want, if it shaves a few hundred million off the world population it's a lesson learned. If it makes us extra money in the process I'm all for it... Growing more and more to offset lower prices (read: market signal telling us to produce less) doesn't work, has never worked, will never work.

[grassfarmer]

We keep trying to tell consumers what they should want... so it matches with what is easy for us.

Only industry in the world where the customer is wrong and we need to keep telling them that... And the big ag companies have done a great job of getting farmers to do their PR work for them...

I'm with you on all that Klause - particularly the latter part - never understood why unpaid farmers fight the PR campaign for big Ag.

[macdon02]

We are setting up for an Irish potato famine. Essentially a monoculture of seed from Monsanto or Bayer or a "stack" of their varieties combined. Just saying. If ma nature decides to throw a curve we are screwed. What happened to the early varieties? All given up for more yield. If the season shortens up by 1 or 2 weeks, then what? Is there any difference in wheat varieties today? The focus on milling properties has really narrowed the focus on what the right variety to grow is

[tweety]

Klause, farmers have only ever had privilege, seed holders have rights. Farmers never have nor never will have rights in an act that is not for them. PBRA is for holders of seed.

Consumers don't know what they want, they are told what they want - ever hear of advertising? They would never have even known what a GMO was or cared if the organic industry wouldn't have spent billions making it out to be the most evil thing the world has ever seen - just to sell the most unsustainable food on the planet.

Now you have idiots running around not buying food that has DNA in it. They want organic because it doesn't have the DNA's in it. That Klause, is the consumer telling what they want. Ridiculous.