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    #41
    FSIN needs to follow this mans leadership and common sense .
    Something desperately needs to be addressed in this area. Local bands here have lost control .
    Also Clarence Louie needs to Council JT and the Liberals ... a lot !!!!

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      #42
      Chief Clarence Louie is obviously a racist!

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        #43
        He should run for prime minister. I’d vote for him in a heartbeat

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          #44
          How a B.C. native band went from poverty to prosperity

          https://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/rob-magazine/clarence-louie-feature/article18913980/

          "At the age of 19, Louie attended what is now First Nations University in Regina, then went on to log two years in native studies at the University of Lethbridge. At the age of 23, emboldened by the Red Power movement of the 1970s, he ran successfully for chief.

          “It’s the same story all over Canada,” Louie says, sitting in his office beneath portraits of his heroes Muhammad Ali and Nelson Mandela. “They gave the best land to the European newcomers and stuck the Indians back in the bush and gave them bread and water and a Bible.

          “As I grew up and studied our history, I became convinced that the remedy to most of our problems was economic development. We needed to close the circle and reclaim the power that we had before white people came along.”

          Louie is a great example of what can be done if the circumstances are right. Louie missed the residential schools. He got a chance to get an education at FNU Regina which. But on Agriville there are those who complain about free education for first nations. Will Louie's model work on every reserve, not likely.

          This thread was about whether first nation treaties were valid because there is some evidence of migration from Europe. This is irrelevant to the issue.

          The treaties are still valid and the First Nations were here first and have a valid claim to share the land and resources.

          Improving the lives of first nations people will require an open mind and empathy. On Agriville those qualities are often in short supply.

          We created the system that marginalized first nations people and made them dependent. Now it is up to us and them to work together for everyone's success.

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            #45
            Well gee willikers, chucky, aren't you just the most morally superior human to ever frequent these pages? (Well, maybe a tossup between you and grassy or maybe...)

            Since you obviously possess complete (self)righteousness, perhaps you'd care to tell us about your personal contribution to setting things right again with the "natives". You must have quite a bit to offer here?

            BTW, your "solution" seems to directly contradict Louie's successful approach. How do you account for that? Could it be that your "moral superiority" is what actually prevents dealing practically with the problem?
            Last edited by burnt; Jan 15, 2018, 09:50.

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              #46
              Originally posted by burnt View Post
              Well gee willikers, chucky, aren't you just the most morally superior human to ever frequent these pages? (Well, maybe a tossup between you and grassy or maybe...)

              Since you obviously possess complete (self)righteousness, perhaps you'd care to tell us about your personal contribution to setting things right again with the "natives". You must have quite a bit to offer here?
              Gee Burnt thanks for your support.

              The first thing I have done is to not be a racist, bigoted asshole who blames first nations for all their problems. Secondly I make sure my kids understand the history and the current position of first nations and their contributions to Canada. Thirdly I support efforts to support and improve the lives of first nations with my tax dollars.

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                #47
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Gee Burnt thanks for your support.

                The first thing I have done is to not be a racist, bigoted asshole who blames first nations for all their problems. Secondly I make sure my kids understand the history and the current position of first nations and their contributions to Canada. Thirdly I support efforts to support and improve the lives of first nations with my tax dollars.
                So, nothing, really.

                About as expected from Liberals - all talk, no real action (other than sermonizing others, LOL).

                You're welcome.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by burnt View Post
                  So, nothing, really.

                  About as expected from Liberals - all talk, no real action (other than sermonizing others, LOL).

                  You're welcome.
                  Perfect response.

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                    #49
                    They must learn to help themselves????
                    Do we treat our own children this way?
                    Giving the current political climate everything it wants will solve it completely????

                    Unless youre a paleontoligist or archeaologist who cares who was here 15000 years ago. Although the chinese are careful with their own history. Political weight in this? 0.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by burnt View Post
                      So, nothing, really.

                      About as expected from Liberals - all talk, no real action (other than sermonizing others, LOL).

                      You're welcome.
                      So what have you done?

                      And why are you worried about what I have done personally other than the distraction from the issue on this thread it provides?

                      As usual you don't want to argue the primary point raised by Big Wheel because you cant win the argument, so better to to deflect.

                      LOL
                      Last edited by chuckChuck; Jan 15, 2018, 11:37.

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