"Handling Fees"....

[the big wheel]

I think when I buy two loaves of bread and one has a day to expire and one has 4 days left I should pay less for the one?
That's the loss the store should eat so to speak but I bet that goes in the price we get for wheat already?

But I do see that durum pasta is priced accordingly to protein in the box??
Hahaha yep.
Get er comin and going. Just smile and say cheese!!

[farmaholic]

I'm not denying or disputing shrink exists...
One way or the other, looks like we're paying.

[malleefarmer]

Not sure i quite get your dockage system and i know your receival sytem is way different to ours.

But i take 29 tonne of small wheat or cracked grain to elevator tested and graded then and there usually gp1 or feed wheat. Growers perogative to take it home and clean it if he wishes.

Basically 7 grades of wheat here specified by protien grain wieght/size and contaminets if any.

[sumdumguy]

Why do special crops handlers and processors still insist on taking a handling fee off the contract price?

When shrink was no longer allowed, they simply renamed the "tookage". You would think the industry would have moved past this by now. Bid "net the tookage", it wouldn't be so blatantly obvious then!!!!

Who do you think should pay for the difference (losses) in the cleaning process? There are losses, believe me. For one, in the time it takes for the product to recah the buyer, there are losses - dust, dirt, moisture. You think the cleaning plant should absorb that? You should try running a cleaning plant, then tell me what you learned Farma. I know from the outside, it looks that way but there are losses.

[sumdumguy]

Farma, you should just be happy there are hundreds of cleaning plants trying everything in their power to make farming work. If they weren't there, would you be getting hosed by the big boys!

[farmaholic]

Who do you think should pay for the difference (losses) in the cleaning process? There are losses, believe me. For one, in the time it takes for the product to recah the buyer, there are losses - dust, dirt, moisture. You think the cleaning plant should absorb that? You should try running a cleaning plant, then tell me what you learned Farma. I know from the outside, it looks that way but there are losses.

Re-read my posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[farmaholic]

**** me.....here's some more food for thought. Are you paying me on gross bushels or net clean bushels? That should just about end the debate in my opinion!

Then "handling fees" on top?

I wish I could have all the grain back that gets accidently spilled or have my harvest losses back as well....but that is supposedly only my problem! Funny how that works!

[farmaholic]

If anyone should understand I would think both westernvicki and sumdumguy would. Escpecially people who have their hands in both pies.

Maybe primary producers can pay for losses at destination too? Oh wait...in some cases of refused shipments I bet that affects our farmgate prices going forward if the "shipper" incurred losses.

Easier to take from below than to get from above....

[farmaholic]

Farma, you should just be happy there are hundreds of cleaning plants trying everything in their power to make farming work. If they weren't there, would you be getting hosed by the big boys!

I am going to check and see if any of the cleaning plants are Registered Charities.

[bucket]

Cleaning plants are a license to print money....

Take an extra half percent out cleaning for their shrinkage. ..who would notice and then reclean in off season for a few extra bushels....there is the definition of shrink....

[sumdumguy]

Farmaholic, take a deep breath. We cleaned grain for many years and I can tell you, our experience was sometimes positive because we had customers who appreciated us being there. But in our experience, seed plants are not licences to print money nor is there money to cover losses. They are in the middle. The buyer pays on net pounds, the producer wants to be paid on gross pounds, but who makes up the difference because despite what you think, there are losses. There is no way grain can pass through augers, conveyors, aspirators, bins, bags for many weeks and not lose weight - you try it. I am just saying that seed plants can not afford to cover it. When you take your car or machinery to the repair shop, do you pay for rags and incidental supplies? Do you get rebated for the parts they off your vehicle?

[blackpowder]

Then bucket I suggest you buy one.