Global Warming WTF??

[GDR]

but we had 2 or 3 of the coldest harvests that we have had the 3 years prior . anyways as the scientists on here tell me , thats just weather , same as the 35 degrees we had this harvest . can't have it both ways ?
i don't think anyone on here disputes that man is giving the earth a hard time , thats a given. but saying a stupid carbon tax that will put canada at a disadvantage while india and china build more coal fired generators , is beyond stupid! and shutting down perfectly good coal fired generators here before alternatives are found is even stupider. paying money into trudeaus play fund and calling it a carbon tax is the problem . i and probably most on here are all for cleaning up pollution , air and environmental . thats not what this carbon tax bullshit is about . proof is all around you when you see millions of lights left on 24-7 in the cities , a $7M ARTIFICIAL ice arena in between the parliament buildings and the rideau canal(longest ice skating area in the world) that trudeau couldn't use because it was too COLD!!!! trudeau taking largest party ever to paris accord? make no mistake , none of these so called activists give a shit about any of it . i guess they have never heard of WEBEX , none of these bullshit holiday free for alls are necessary in this digital age , at our expense. meanwhile farmers have been doing their part , def systems, zero till , efficiencies in most aspects of farming . make no mistake , the only meatheads are the sheeple that are buying this hook, line and sinker ? nearly every farmer i know are very environmentally friendly , too bad we couldn't say the same about our city cousins . the waste in the cities blows my mind . we don't even leave our yard lights on , other than when we are working at night in the yard . when you fly over a city , that is criminal , seeing the entire city , buildings and all , lit up like daylight .

Agreed.

The waste on street lights and yardlights is my biggest pet peeve too. Absolutely no need to be lit up like daylight while the world sleeps. We don't keep yardlights on either other than a few weeks at calving time.

[farmaholic]

We have three yard lights....of which two are off when they're not needed....my ego isn't that big...look at me over here, all my lights!! We have two LEDs and an old MercVap. Only one of the LEDs are on. We also try not to idle vehicles needlessly. We don't broadcast fert(farmers will buy just about anything). Emission controls rammed down our throats that compromise engines(egr valves), def that freezes in our climate, DPF junk....all cost us extra to have forced compliance and expensive maintenance. Maybe if everyone exercised some commonsense it wouldn't need to be "legislated".

[chuckChuck]

Caseih, well put. Unfortunately the posters on here are just like politicians, if your question any aspect of climate change you are an idiot and a denier. When you ask any questions about carbon tax levels or structure or what will be taxed or try to have a reasonable conversation about competitiveness all you hear is crickets!!! In a socialist's mind oil is evil and we must tax tax tax!!!

Its not just questioning the science of climate change. It is the complete denial that humans and greenhouse gasses have any role in climate change and global warming.

It is difficult to have a conversation with someone who completely dismisses the vast amount of science showing global warming is occurring and then claims global cooling is occurring.

If you remember in 2015 Steven Harper agreed with the G7 on a target to eliminate fossil energy use by the year 2100. Why?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-commits-to-ending-fossil-fuel-use-by-2100/article24844340/

So why are you blaming socialists? Is Harper a socialist?

So if Conservative Prime Ministers are in agreement that we need to stop using fossil energy then it is pretty obvious we need to use a lot of different tools to get there.

A carbon tax is one option and is widely supported as an efficient market based solution that reduces the need for government regulations and encourages industry and consumers to reduce waste and find their own solutions.

Regardless of what Trump says,and he has said he may stay with the Paris Accord. Many US states are moving forward with reducing greenhouse gases.

When the price of oil was high and the loonie was very high I don't remember many posts on Agriville that were concerned about the impact of a high loonie was having on the manufacturing sector and making Canadian products less competitive.

So a carbon tax may have some impact but there are numerous other factors affecting competitiveness.

Trump is quite happy to put tarrifs on imports which is another competitiveness factor that can be much more significant.

So where is your data and study that is showing that Canada is losing it competitive advantage in every industry because of the proposed carbon tax?

[furrowtickler]

Its not just questioning the science of climate change. It is the complete denial that humans and greenhouse gasses have any role in climate change and global warming.

It is difficult to have a conversation with someone who completely dismisses the vast amount of science showing global warming is occurring and then claims global cooling is occurring.

If you remember in 2015 Steven Harper agreed with the G7 on a target to eliminate fossil energy use by the year 2100. Why?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-commits-to-ending-fossil-fuel-use-by-2100/article24844340/

So why are you blaming socialists? Is Harper a socialist?

So if Conservative Prime Ministers are in agreement that we need to stop using fossil energy then it is pretty obvious we need to use a lot of different tools to get there.

A carbon tax is one option and is widely supported as an efficient market based solution that reduces the need for government regulations and encourages industry and consumers to reduce waste and find their own solutions.

Regardless of what Trump says,and he has said he may stay with the Paris Accord. Many US states are moving forward with reducing greenhouse gases.

When the price of oil was high and the loonie was very high I don't remember many posts on Agriville that were concerned about the impact of a high loonie was having on the manufacturing sector and making Canadian products less competitive.

So a carbon tax may have some impact but there are numerous other factors affecting competitiveness.

Trump is quite happy to put tarrifs on imports which is another competitiveness factor that can be much more significant.

So where is your data and study that is showing that Canada is losing it competitive advantage in every industry because of the proposed carbon tax?

Show me evidence that this carbon tax scam will effect climate change ... proof not b/S

[sumdumguy]

Last 'report' I read stated, "This report warns that the numbers are provisional subject to potentially large revisions because they rely heavily on assumptions". That best describes the fake climate change data that is being gobbled up by leftist masses. They don't realize that this fake science is netting billions and billions to different groups and this hoax can be used to extract untold amounts of wealth from advanced economies - all because people are so friggin gullible.

[chuckChuck]

Show me evidence that this carbon tax scam will effect climate change ... proof not b/S

Wall was the only Premier who opposed carbon pricing. Instead he wanted to use other options such as carbon capture on coal fired electrical generation which is the most expensive way to reduce carbon emissions and is another form of carbon pricing.

You should wonder why Wall was prepared to spend 1.2 billion of taxpayers money on reducing carbon emissions if there is no need to do this?

Preston Manning, former Reform Party leader from Alberta is also an advocate for carbon pricing as the best west way to reduce emissions.

Michael Chong former CPC leadership candidate is also in favour of carbon pricing.

Why would high profile Conservatives be in favour of carbon pricing if there was no evidence they work?

Why would Steven Harper sign a G7 agreement to end fossil fuel use by the year 2100 if there is no problem?

As I said before many times last June only one Conservative MP voted against supporting the Paris climate accord to reduce emissions. Why?

[furrowtickler]

Wall was the only Premier who opposed carbon pricing. Instead he wanted to use other options such as carbon capture on coal fired electrical generation which is the most expensive way to reduce carbon emissions and is another form of carbon pricing.

You should wonder why Wall was prepared to spend 1.2 billion of taxpayers money on reducing carbon emissions if there is no need to do this?

Preston Manning, former Reform Party leader from Alberta is also an advocate for carbon pricing as the best west way to reduce emissions.

Michael Chong former CPC leadership candidate is also in favour of carbon pricing.

Why would high profile Conservatives be in favour of carbon pricing if there was no evidence they work?

Why would Steven Harper sign a G7 agreement to end fossil fuel use by the year 2100 if there is no problem?

As I said before many times last June only one Conservative MP voted against supporting the Paris climate accord to reduce emissions. Why?

Votes ..... plain and simple .
They have brainwashed the average person into believing this wealth transfer scheme .
Again , where is the proof a carbon tax will change the climate ?

[Oliver88]

Show me evidence that this carbon tax scam will effect climate change ... proof not b/S

The only thing it will effect is the amount of $ a farmer retires with.
Will also create bureaucratic and tax collection jobs and transfer some funds from rural to urban.

Is this the desired result?

[Guest]

Votes ..... plain and simple .
They have brainwashed the average person into believing this wealth transfer scheme .
Again , where is the proof a carbon tax will change the climate ?

I think we are wasting our breath, furrow. we are just deniers , knuckle dragging apes , idiots , and latest one , "meatheads" . these will be the same type of people that accepted the "science" on big sugar , big tobacco , etc. , until people like us , that didn't follow the herd , questioned them enough to make change and bring out real science . until they have damaged the country , irreparably , they will not change . when that happens , they will be the biggest whiners once the money flow from oil, modern agriculture, etc . has stopped . we will be ok as we have survival skills . anyone that thinks that science is ever settled , has shit for brains . that's the beauty of science , we never quit learning, and never will . this bullshit will pass , a lot of people will get rich like Suzuki and gore , but the average joe will suffer because of it , activist or not . the world will be no better because of it . there will come true change ,alternate energy sources , stuff that hasn't been dreamed of yet , all in good time , but not like this . this carbon tax bullshit will go the way of the do-do same as it did in austrailia . but I guess it will work here because we're so much different that austrailia . too bad arrogant politicians couldn't learn from other people's mistakes . or from the wreck that is going on in Ontario with hydro ? right here , right now . I wonder if any of these people see any reason for a company such as Campbell soup , Brandt , etc. wouldn't want to roll up their rug and move south . there will be a wave of this very soon . I think the damage is done and our children and grandchildren will spend generations cleaning this up.

[Oliver88]

Oh so now having rusty’s in your grain is now more evidence of global warming because some farmers in Alberta combine on hot days and never turn aeration fans on?? 🙈

[fjlip]

Oh so now having rusty’s in your grain is now more evidence of global warming because some farmers in Alberta combine on hot days and never turn aeration fans on?? 🙈

This so FITS all those who swallow hook line and sinker, the TOTAL BS/ lies/ made up "SCIENCE" edited/ adjusted/deleted for an agenda! How can you be so gullible????? Hitler had those same types I guess. SHAME ON YOU! Hope you FREEZE enough to come to your senses!

[fjlip]

I think we are wasting our breath, furrow. we are just deniers , knuckle dragging apes , idiots , and latest one , "meatheads" . these will be the same type of people that accepted the "science" on big sugar , big tobacco , etc. , until people like us , that didn't follow the herd , questioned them enough to make change and bring out real science . until they have damaged the country , irreparably , they will not change . when that happens , they will be the biggest whiners once the money flow from oil, modern agriculture, etc . has stopped . we will be ok as we have survival skills . anyone that thinks that science is ever settled , has shit for brains . that's the beauty of science , we never quit learning, and never will . this bullshit will pass , a lot of people will get rich like Suzuki and gore , but the average joe will suffer because of it , activist or not . the world will be no better because of it . there will come true change ,alternate energy sources , stuff that hasn't been dreamed of yet , all in good time , but not like this . this carbon tax bullshit will go the way of the do-do same as it did in austrailia . but I guess it will work here because we're so much different that austrailia . too bad arrogant politicians couldn't learn from other people's mistakes . or from the wreck that is going on in Ontario with hydro ? right here , right now . I wonder if any of these people see any reason for a company such as Campbell soup , Brandt , etc. wouldn't want to roll up their rug and move south . there will be a wave of this very soon . I think the damage is done and our children and grandchildren will spend generations cleaning this up.

I am afraid you are correct...what a shame... Germany is also similarly extremely remorseful/shamed about following Hitlers lies and deceit that ruined a great nation. I bet history will repeat!

[fjlip]

Wall was the only Premier who opposed carbon pricing. Instead he wanted to use other options such as carbon capture on coal fired electrical generation which is the most expensive way to reduce carbon emissions and is another form of carbon pricing.

You should wonder why Wall was prepared to spend 1.2 billion of taxpayers money on reducing carbon emissions if there is no need to do this?

Preston Manning, former Reform Party leader from Alberta is also an advocate for carbon pricing as the best west way to reduce emissions.

Michael Chong former CPC leadership candidate is also in favour of carbon pricing.

Why would high profile Conservatives be in favour of carbon pricing if there was no evidence they work?

Why would Steven Harper sign a G7 agreement to end fossil fuel use by the year 2100 if there is no problem?

As I said before many times last June only one Conservative MP voted against supporting the Paris climate accord to reduce emissions. Why?

Typical politicians trying to pander to the DUMMIES/Lemmings like you. Just to get ELECTED. Told them off many times. NO BALLS to say the truth!

[chuckChuck]

So your only response is it is a bunch of lies, bullshit and a giant conspiracy! Hahahahahah.

If that is the best you can come up with, then there is not a snowball chance in hell you will ever win this.

Everybody else including all the federal Conservative MPs except one don't buy your way out there conspiracy theories!

Give up!

[fjlip]

So your only response is it is a bunch of lies, bullshit and a giant conspiracy! Hahahahahah.

If that is the best you can come up with, then there is not a snowball chance in hell you will ever win this.

Everybody else including all the federal Conservative MPs except one don't buy your way out there conspiracy theories!

Give up!

Hope you freeze you ASS off ! **** your politicians! You can not prove a god dam thing 50 years into the future. It's an AGENDA, wake the hell up!