Global Warming WTF??

[AlbertaFarmer5]

See, I told you it was fake news. And chuck came along just in time to prove that it is fake news with another cut and paste. Nothing to see here folks, Just believe in the hockey stick everything else is obviously fake news. The ice ages never happened, that was never farming on Greenland, Glaciers in the Alps never contracted and expanded, Societies never failed due to climate variations.

Thanks Chuck, I know I can count on you to prove my point every time.

[Blaithin]

I find it almost distressing that people who rely so much on the weather and climate seem to have little actual understanding of it.

Yes, we have had cold days. It is winter after all, it's to be expected. Anyone having issues with rusty's in their wheat btw?

They're having a blast here because the wheat was 40^ going into the bin at harvest. Smoking hot harvest that it was here. Then there's the fact that rusty's are incredibly cold tolerant. What's the fact sheet on them on the Sask ag website say... takes 12 weeks at a grain temp of -5 to kill them. A week of -20. They're still alive and kicking here unless the grains been treated. I keep hearing farmers say they've never had bug issues like this.

Must not be as cold or as cold for as long as we seem to think when we feel it on our cheeks.

Similar weather patterns are what lead to the pine beetle taking off.

Perhaps if you don't want to believe the scientists and find that Polar Bear documentaries can be faked, you should look no farther than pests you have to deal with.

Climate is constantly changing. If you're in denial of that you're a meathead. The only thing you can dispute is if people have an affect on it and how much of an affect that might be.

[burnt]

Some interesting info here, if you are into science -

https://twitter.com/ClimateRealists https://twitter.com/ClimateRealists

[Guest]

I find it almost distressing that people who rely so much on the weather and climate seem to have little actual understanding of it.

Yes, we have had cold days. It is winter after all, it's to be expected. Anyone having issues with rusty's in their wheat btw?

They're having a blast here because the wheat was 40^ going into the bin at harvest. Smoking hot harvest that it was here. Then there's the fact that rusty's are incredibly cold tolerant. What's the fact sheet on them on the Sask ag website say... takes 12 weeks at a grain temp of -5 to kill them. A week of -20. They're still alive and kicking here unless the grains been treated. I keep hearing farmers say they've never had bug issues like this.

Must not be as cold or as cold for as long as we seem to think when we feel it on our cheeks.

Similar weather patterns are what lead to the pine beetle taking off.


Perhaps if you don't want to believe the scientists and find that Polar Bear documentaries can be faked, you should look no farther than pests you have to deal with.

Climate is constantly changing. If you're in denial of that you're a meathead. The only thing you can dispute is if people have an affect on it and how much of an affect that might be.

but we had 2 or 3 of the coldest harvests that we have had the 3 years prior . anyways as the scientists on here tell me , thats just weather , same as the 35 degrees we had this harvest . can't have it both ways ?
i don't think anyone on here disputes that man is giving the earth a hard time , thats a given. but saying a stupid carbon tax that will put canada at a disadvantage while india and china build more coal fired generators , is beyond stupid! and shutting down perfectly good coal fired generators here before alternatives are found is even stupider. paying money into trudeaus play fund and calling it a carbon tax is the problem . i and probably most on here are all for cleaning up pollution , air and environmental . thats not what this carbon tax bullshit is about . proof is all around you when you see millions of lights left on 24-7 in the cities , a $7M ARTIFICIAL ice arena in between the parliament buildings and the rideau canal(longest ice skating area in the world) that trudeau couldn't use because it was too COLD!!!! trudeau taking largest party ever to paris accord? make no mistake , none of these so called activists give a shit about any of it . i guess they have never heard of WEBEX , none of these bullshit holiday free for alls are necessary in this digital age , at our expense. meanwhile farmers have been doing their part , def systems, zero till , efficiencies in most aspects of farming . make no mistake , the only meatheads are the sheeple that are buying this hook, line and sinker ? nearly every farmer i know are very environmentally friendly , too bad we couldn't say the same about our city cousins . the waste in the cities blows my mind . we don't even leave our yard lights on , other than when we are working at night in the yard . when you fly over a city , that is criminal , seeing the entire city , buildings and all , lit up like daylight .

[Hamloc]

Caseih, well put. Unfortunately the posters on here are just like politicians, if your question any aspect of climate change you are an idiot and a denier. When you ask any questions about carbon tax levels or structure or what will be taxed or try to have a reasonable conversation about competitiveness all you hear is crickets!!! In a socialist's mind oil is evil and we must tax tax tax!!!

[GDR]

but we had 2 or 3 of the coldest harvests that we have had the 3 years prior . anyways as the scientists on here tell me , thats just weather , same as the 35 degrees we had this harvest . can't have it both ways ?
i don't think anyone on here disputes that man is giving the earth a hard time , thats a given. but saying a stupid carbon tax that will put canada at a disadvantage while india and china build more coal fired generators , is beyond stupid! and shutting down perfectly good coal fired generators here before alternatives are found is even stupider. paying money into trudeaus play fund and calling it a carbon tax is the problem . i and probably most on here are all for cleaning up pollution , air and environmental . thats not what this carbon tax bullshit is about . proof is all around you when you see millions of lights left on 24-7 in the cities , a $7M ARTIFICIAL ice arena in between the parliament buildings and the rideau canal(longest ice skating area in the world) that trudeau couldn't use because it was too COLD!!!! trudeau taking largest party ever to paris accord? make no mistake , none of these so called activists give a shit about any of it . i guess they have never heard of WEBEX , none of these bullshit holiday free for alls are necessary in this digital age , at our expense. meanwhile farmers have been doing their part , def systems, zero till , efficiencies in most aspects of farming . make no mistake , the only meatheads are the sheeple that are buying this hook, line and sinker ? nearly every farmer i know are very environmentally friendly , too bad we couldn't say the same about our city cousins . the waste in the cities blows my mind . we don't even leave our yard lights on , other than when we are working at night in the yard . when you fly over a city , that is criminal , seeing the entire city , buildings and all , lit up like daylight .

Agreed.

The waste on street lights and yardlights is my biggest pet peeve too. Absolutely no need to be lit up like daylight while the world sleeps. We don't keep yardlights on either other than a few weeks at calving time.

[farmaholic]

We have three yard lights....of which two are off when they're not needed....my ego isn't that big...look at me over here, all my lights!! We have two LEDs and an old MercVap. Only one of the LEDs are on. We also try not to idle vehicles needlessly. We don't broadcast fert(farmers will buy just about anything). Emission controls rammed down our throats that compromise engines(egr valves), def that freezes in our climate, DPF junk....all cost us extra to have forced compliance and expensive maintenance. Maybe if everyone exercised some commonsense it wouldn't need to be "legislated".

[chuckChuck]

Caseih, well put. Unfortunately the posters on here are just like politicians, if your question any aspect of climate change you are an idiot and a denier. When you ask any questions about carbon tax levels or structure or what will be taxed or try to have a reasonable conversation about competitiveness all you hear is crickets!!! In a socialist's mind oil is evil and we must tax tax tax!!!

Its not just questioning the science of climate change. It is the complete denial that humans and greenhouse gasses have any role in climate change and global warming.

It is difficult to have a conversation with someone who completely dismisses the vast amount of science showing global warming is occurring and then claims global cooling is occurring.

If you remember in 2015 Steven Harper agreed with the G7 on a target to eliminate fossil energy use by the year 2100. Why?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-commits-to-ending-fossil-fuel-use-by-2100/article24844340/

So why are you blaming socialists? Is Harper a socialist?

So if Conservative Prime Ministers are in agreement that we need to stop using fossil energy then it is pretty obvious we need to use a lot of different tools to get there.

A carbon tax is one option and is widely supported as an efficient market based solution that reduces the need for government regulations and encourages industry and consumers to reduce waste and find their own solutions.

Regardless of what Trump says,and he has said he may stay with the Paris Accord. Many US states are moving forward with reducing greenhouse gases.

When the price of oil was high and the loonie was very high I don't remember many posts on Agriville that were concerned about the impact of a high loonie was having on the manufacturing sector and making Canadian products less competitive.

So a carbon tax may have some impact but there are numerous other factors affecting competitiveness.

Trump is quite happy to put tarrifs on imports which is another competitiveness factor that can be much more significant.

So where is your data and study that is showing that Canada is losing it competitive advantage in every industry because of the proposed carbon tax?

[furrowtickler]

Its not just questioning the science of climate change. It is the complete denial that humans and greenhouse gasses have any role in climate change and global warming.

It is difficult to have a conversation with someone who completely dismisses the vast amount of science showing global warming is occurring and then claims global cooling is occurring.

If you remember in 2015 Steven Harper agreed with the G7 on a target to eliminate fossil energy use by the year 2100. Why?

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/canada-commits-to-ending-fossil-fuel-use-by-2100/article24844340/

So why are you blaming socialists? Is Harper a socialist?

So if Conservative Prime Ministers are in agreement that we need to stop using fossil energy then it is pretty obvious we need to use a lot of different tools to get there.

A carbon tax is one option and is widely supported as an efficient market based solution that reduces the need for government regulations and encourages industry and consumers to reduce waste and find their own solutions.

Regardless of what Trump says,and he has said he may stay with the Paris Accord. Many US states are moving forward with reducing greenhouse gases.

When the price of oil was high and the loonie was very high I don't remember many posts on Agriville that were concerned about the impact of a high loonie was having on the manufacturing sector and making Canadian products less competitive.

So a carbon tax may have some impact but there are numerous other factors affecting competitiveness.

Trump is quite happy to put tarrifs on imports which is another competitiveness factor that can be much more significant.

So where is your data and study that is showing that Canada is losing it competitive advantage in every industry because of the proposed carbon tax?

Show me evidence that this carbon tax scam will effect climate change ... proof not b/S

[sumdumguy]

Last 'report' I read stated, "This report warns that the numbers are provisional subject to potentially large revisions because they rely heavily on assumptions". That best describes the fake climate change data that is being gobbled up by leftist masses. They don't realize that this fake science is netting billions and billions to different groups and this hoax can be used to extract untold amounts of wealth from advanced economies - all because people are so friggin gullible.