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    #21
    Follow the money a long time liberal is his financial planner. Can’t sell lentils get a gift to do protein.

    And farmers get shit on

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      #22
      Yea in our area their building soy treating plants at elevators it’s about money Alberta just follow it.

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        #23
        Makar- find a P&H elevator nearest you and put in a target on your new crop wheat. They are the best wheat company in business today and that has been my experience.
        Makar- 80% of prairie grain ships from Vancouver, 20% from Thunder Bay.....zero in Bulk Boxcars thankfully.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Crestliner View Post
          Makar- find a P&H elevator nearest you and put in a target on your new crop wheat. They are the best wheat company in business today and that has been my experience.
          Makar- 80% of prairie grain ships from Vancouver, 20% from Thunder Bay.....zero in Bulk Boxcars thankfully.


          Our p and h doesn't even have new crop bids.


          You must be in Manitoba.

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            #25
            Find my nearest p and h, now thats funny, more chance of finding the easter bunny. They and elvis left the building years ago.

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              #26
              Who in the chain is perceived as taking too much, more than their share, compared to each other's investment and risk in the Industry?

              The world value of a tonne of grain gets divided among everyone in the Industry. Inputs, goods and services.

              World prices paid for fert manufactured on our door step....no NOLA freight incurred. Must be quite the margins in that scenario.

              Canola seed prices supporting the huge bloated money sucking business structure that supplies it.

              Basis levels off international grain prices....they don't even want to take any of the pricing risk anymore....every effort is made to pass it on to the primary producer. If they want no risk- then become a toll handler and try not to make money on grade spreads, Fx, and grain exchange price moves. .....and passing down the demurrage costs!

              Current fuel prices disportionately priced compared to when a barrel of oil was at it's high.

              Astronomically priced machinery and their parts.

              Maybe there could be more money to pay more commercial grain freight prices if there was a re-allocation of the limited amount of money to go around from a tonne of grain. Reset time? No one likes giving up any gains made. Reality is we seem to be caught in the middle, price cost squeezes without alot of options to recoup extra costs.

              Then there's Mother Nature....
              Last edited by farmaholic; Feb 18, 2018, 13:50.

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                #27
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                On the surface I agree with you, but when I look for real world evidence, there is none. Record land prices, record rents, equipment and technology still selling, multinationals still investing in Canadian Ag. Most are still speaking with their wallets.

                If not for our misguided socialist governments, we should have some of the lowest costs in the world. Land prices and rent will sort themselves out until we return to that position.
                You bring up valid points and Crestliner’s point #4 is on par with this as well.
                If the direction of land prices and rent gauge optimism than it is maxed out right now.

                Land prices and rent are going up along with interest rates so that is a sign of a lot of optimism and demand to buy.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Oliver88 View Post
                  You bring up valid points and Crestliner’s point #4 is on par with this as well.
                  If the direction of land prices and rent gauge optimism than it is maxed out right now.

                  Land prices and rent are going up along with interest rates so that is a sign of a lot of optimism and demand to buy.
                  I think the "SS HYPE" is about to set sail....through a mine feild on a collision course with an iceberg.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Klause View Post
                    You're right land prices and rent keep going higher... They always do right before a bubble bursts.
                    "Here", they have been going higher since the late 80's, and I've heard the same thing ever since then too. One of these days it will be correct, but waiting for that once in a career opportunity to occur would have cost someone my age an entire career.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                      "Here", they have been going higher since the late 80's, and I've heard the same thing ever since then too. One of these days it will be correct, but waiting for that once in a career opportunity to occur would have cost someone my age an entire career.


                      Been farming here for 5 years. In that time land prices have at least tripled.


                      Would have made way more money buying 15 quarters and leveraging ourselves to the hilt 5 yrs ago and selling that land today.


                      Hindsight is 20/20

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