Teachers with guns?

[Braveheart]

Arming teachers is beyond a bad idea. I don't know a teacher that couldn't be disarmed by one or more students and the gun then in students hands. Most teachers I have known had more mental issues than these deranged shooters, so a gun in their hands? No thanks. Shooting well, especially in a tactical situation is a perishable skill, one that requires training and constant practice.

Re guns, what is an assault rifle? I can tell most of you have no grasp of that. Yesterday's so called assault rifles are today's hunting /sporting weapons. It has always been this way sin flintlock times. This more evident than ever with the AR platforms. ARs are wonderful to shoot. They handle and acquire targets wonderfully. Tell me what is the difference between an AR and a semi auto Winchester, Browning, Remington, whatever hunting rifle besides adjustable stocks and pistol grips? No difference.

South of me in US, every farmhouse had an old lever action or Grandpa's Springfield or Garand from the war. Now they have daddy's AR from the war. Same up here but replace Springfield with Lee Enfield.

Just go to a gun show in Canada and be prepared for shock at the people you see. We have guns here, lots,of guns.

This prompts the question, why do these mass shootings not happen here? Why is this mostly an American phenomenon?

Banning guns like Liberal left wants isn't the answer, but arming teachers is a real bad idea.

[GDR]

Forage


Yes, and let's get rid of the Enternet, Google, Iphones, and any form of communication. Billions of Billion of people using them everyday and their all mass murders.

I just burn my Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden (especially the "Number of the Beast" as it may start the devil worshiping) records this morning because my kids started to listen to them this week![/QUOTE]



Both those paragraphs are terrific ideas, don't think it's gonna happen but I've been hoping the Internet was gonna die since the late 90s. All the tech we use everyday most people feel makes our world better but I don't agree. We are raising a bunch of social misfits that would rather stay away from direct contact and sit in a dark basement playing destruction type games by themselves hoping someone gives them a few "likes" on social media or else they become suicidal.

Not all are like that, and tech is not bad on its own but society and parents need to give proper guidance and support to go with these things and that part is not happening enough of the time.

Disclaimer here is yes I've likely screwed up my kids too!! In many ways.

[fjlip]

This is so sad, did any of you WORRY about gunmen in your schools? The thought NEVER crossed any one's mind in my day. Feel sorry for today's youth, especially in USA. Stress to the MAX.

[stubblejumper]

Look how well strict gun control works in Mexico, the cartel likes it that way they have all the guns. In Australia ultra strict gun control had little to no efect on murder, violent crime and even suicide. Do you honestly think criminals are going to register or turn in their guns? A gun safe full of AR's in the teachers lounge not a bad idea.

80% of gun violence in Mexico can be linked to American guns

[Oliver88]

If some TV, movies and video games are a true reflection of our society, we are ****ed.
They may not be the only problem but I believe some are a huge negative cultural affect and cause of social rot.
The numbing affect....

Yes as ultra Liberal Hollywood looks down on the second amendment and lectures the peasants they cash in on every movie showing people blowing eachothers brains out......the video game industry and rap music is as bad at glorifying the lifestyles of gang bangers.
I do think the biggest issue and common denominator is boys who grow up without a father/broken home.

I’m not sure of the details of the La Loche SK school shooting last year that killed 4-5 and injured more......but would assume there could have been a broken home involved.

[biglentil]

80% of gun violence in Mexico can be linked to American guns

But for American guns would the drug violence in mexico still exist? Your fooling yourself to think that it wouldnt. The US might be easiest route but im sure they would find other routes. Hell a small competent machine shop could manufacture an AR from scratch, and they do. There are literally 100's of different AR manufacturers, the tech is 60 years old. Pretty tough putting the genie back in the bottle. GL

Only mentally competent and trained teachers need apply. Give em pepper spray or a tazer at a minimum then, something so they can protect a classroom of sitting ducks.

[MBgrower]

any of you on this forum have a wife or daughter that is a teacher? Do you want them carrying guns and held with the responsibility of having to kill someone? Are they mentally capable of killing another person, and how will it affect them emotionally for the rest of their lives? how often do we here of police, and soldiers having mental issues after such experience and they train for this, teachers do not. The USA gun lobby are a bunch of nuts.

[Guest]

any of you on this forum have a wife or daughter that is a teacher? Do you want them carrying guns and held with the responsibility of having to kill someone? Are they mentally capable of killing another person, and how will it affect them emotionally for the rest of their lives? how often do we here of police, and soldiers having mental issues after such experience and they train for this, teachers do not. The USA gun lobby are a bunch of nuts.

No I sure don't . No they are not capable of killing , pstd after a kill ??
No one thought this through at all ?
Dumbest thing I ever heard of ?
Start with getting rid of the guns that are designed for killing people only , a machine gun has no use on the farm , on the gun range , or for hunting ?
It won't solve the problem might stop a few wing nuts

[blackpowder]

Braveheart writes factually and better than I can.

[biglentil]

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Imagine if the Sergeant at Arms Kevin Vickers wasnt there to shoot the terrorist on parliment hill. The stat about how many lives he saved that day will never be listed because nobody knows.