CFA: Farm Leaders Underwhelmed by 2018 Federal Budget.

[farmaholic]

Maybe we should be looking for action and policy and accountability changes to the Industry and it's participants that could result in more money to producers than direct government/taxpayer budget money.

[farmaholic]

No money left for ag. Budget used a few million to educate men and boys how to treat women. Who's gonna teach that course? Ahahahaha.

Maybe it's targeted at our newly minted Muslim "Canadians"....hahahahahah.

[Bowerpower]

Are any of you really surprised. Trudeau knows he has no votes in rural western Canada. So why the f would he support us. Politicians buy votes. No point spending money on ag when he has no chance of votes.

[grassfarmer]

grass farmer


I just don't think the public can absorb the actual value of agriculture out here.

People just don't understand the value.

Russia has learnt the value of agriculture to their infrastructure.

Canada has not ... to their own peril.

Maybe, why should the public be worried though? plenty food in the stores airfreighted in from around the globe - why do they need local stuff? The old argument that you should be thankful to us for feeding you or you would go hungry is past it's expiration date - hasn't been an issue in stable western democracies for 65 years. Maybe time to redefine ourselves and think of a new strategy?

[farmaholic]

Maybe, why should the public be worried though? plenty food in the stores airfreighted in from around the globe - why do they need local stuff? The old argument that you should be thankful to us for feeding you or you would go hungry is past it's expiration date - hasn't been an issue in stable western democracies for 65 years. Maybe time to redefine ourselves and think of a new strategy?

Maybe its not about feeding the masses as much about feeding the "beast", the beast being the well fed industry! LOL.

[bucket]

Farmaholic

You mean the industry that absorbs all the growing forward 2 funds as witnessed by all the pamphlets in the mail with those events funded by funds that are to be used by the primary producer?

[farmaholic]

Its hard to argue with that comment bucket. I wonder what percentage of GF2 funds go to Industry versus "Business Risk Management" for primary producers.

[Horse]

Maybe we should look at our business models. All this greed to be BTOs is what is driving us to the poor house, take cattle probably 90% is owned either directly or indirectly by the packing industry,brcause of the hedging and financing, they don't need to pay any more for cattle..
Those of you in the grain industry if you were your own man could leave the grain in the bins or not fret to the max or don't seed as many acres, but then you wouldn't be able to borrow so you can be that BTO I think its a case of selfenflicted pain, PET said why should I sell your wheat for you, if you want to grow wheat then find a market for it.
It seems obvious why grow something no one wants at the price you think you need.

[bucket]

farmaholic

Of course it can't be argued.... the ****ing industry leeches are living off our farms and also swallowing the funding for tough times like a pulse tariff or poor rail movement.

Marc Garneau believes his buddy at the railway that things are getting better.

Meanwhile profitable companies already leeching get supercluster**** funding .

And Galen Weston instead of being in jail is getting a write down while maintaining the price of bread at fixed levels.

Someone tell me where I am wrong.

[mcfarms]

Have this picture from the pm's personal travelog showing him and the finance minister out and about

[grassfarmer]

[ATTACH]2609[/ATTACH] Have this picture from the pm's personal travelog showing him and the finance minister out and about

Plenty farmers watch these parades too apparently!

[grassfarmer]

farmaholic

Of course it can't be argued.... the ****ing industry leeches are living off our farms and also swallowing the funding for tough times like a pulse tariff or poor rail movement.

Marc Garneau believes his buddy at the railway that things are getting better.

Meanwhile profitable companies already leeching get supercluster**** funding .

And Galen Weston instead of being in jail is getting a write down while maintaining the price of bread at fixed levels.

Someone tell me where I am wrong.

Absolutely bucket. During BSE the AB Ag minister reassured ranchers that things were Ok in the beef sector as she's spoken to Brian Nilsson and he had told her they were. Nilssons, for those not in cattle, were at the time prospering off a closed border - having a captive (cheap) supply of cattle to process as well as receiving substantial bail out money from the Government for the "hardship" they were enduring.

I feel we are making progress with this thread - are we now prepared to accept that corporate concentration and market manipulation are the major component causing hardship in virtually every sector of Canadian agriculture? Careful though - agreeing with this would align you with the concerns of the National Farmers Union versus being in the camp of the pro-corporation types who claim they believe that the free market will take care of itself and that "free enterprise" will reign supreme. It'll be a tough choice for some of you but maybe it's time to swallow your pride and realize that most farm "commodity" organizations work against producer interests rather than for them. Time to support an organization that truly represents farmers interests - where you drive the agenda of the organization.