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    #16
    Look pretty recent probably last winter since one episode was previewed a while back....

    It's just so encouraging to see the way they work so hard....

    And that constant revelation about being the builders of Canada and being hundred years old ....no one questions why more hasn't been done in the last 50 years, for being such an economic prerequisite to the country. ...

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      #17
      An interesting historical note: There were plans drawn up prior to WW1 for twinning the CPR main line from the lakehead to Vancouver. Even though the CPR was on the proper side of the Fraser river canyon it would have been quite the feat

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        #18
        They made the first route without the technology of today....

        I don't buy into it can't be
        done....more like no one wants to do it. ...

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          #19
          There is no political will. It doesn't affect eastern Canada. No one travels by railroad so it is completely off of voters radar. It will run into the same environmental backlash as pipelines do. Why would a politician embroil themselves in this issue when there are no votes to be gained, and a career to be lost? A project such as twinning railroad doesn't pay back within a 4 year election cycle. But all of the negatives would float up well within the same election cycle. Government is not the answer here.

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            #20
            Originally posted by buzz View Post
            I saw this on the CP website - Report


            http://www.cpr.ca/en/our-markets/grain/grain-update http://www.cpr.ca/en/our-markets/grain/grain-update

            Taken as a whole, the crop-year to date has been a successful one for CP. Our innovative Dedicated Train Program has 15 percent more subscribers this year, our cycle times were on target and generally, things along our supply chain were moving well. Our year-over-year compares would be even better if not for a very slow start to the crop-year for grain sales. A portion of CP's dedicated train capacity also sat idle for most of August and September, and some shippers struggled to fill their committed freight until November.
            It does seem that grain sales got off to a slow start. That is something that has to be understood as well. There is not a market for all the grain produced on the prairies all the time
            Still the statement that the CPR couldn't find grain to haul hides the fact that there was unfulfilled demand. They just never bothered to clean it up. There are always cars supplied early too, which if you read between the lines means some elevator keeps shipping and another is left waiting.

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              #21
              Farming101

              Can you explain the 3.1mmt of vessels waiting at West coast and contracted to terminals for pickup if the grain can't find a home as CP states.....

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                #22
                Originally posted by farming101 View Post
                It does seem that grain sales got off to a slow start. That is something that has to be understood as well. There is not a market for all the grain produced on the prairies all the time
                Still the statement that the CPR couldn't find grain to haul hides the fact that there was unfulfilled demand. They just never bothered to clean it up. There are always cars supplied early too, which if you read between the lines means some elevator keeps shipping and another is left waiting.
                As I understand it, the RR tell grain companies how many ccars available and the Grain Co's tell RR where they want them spotted. If cars show up early it is the grain co's that told them to spot them there.

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                  #23
                  Can't be 3 mmt? Why is it that much?

                  There is a need for ships on deck to load. When all terminals are online they may want as much as 1 million tonnes floating(just a guess). Only when a terminal goes into shutdown would that need go away. Right now there are way too many ships there though. Sometimes they show up early.

                  Railways are to blame(CN what happened?). They failed to execute. Force Majeure? Partly.

                  The tipping point has past in my opinion. Opportunity has been lost.
                  Last edited by farming101; Mar 6, 2018, 13:34.

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