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Point well made furrow! The only ****en reason family farms exist or are usually successful "longterm" is because most generational farmers are willing to do exactly what you described. As I mentioned before, farming is a business that most business rules can't be applied to. Layers and layers of management, inability to pass on increased costs, pay to have anything done that you could do yourself, insanely capital intensive, too high a risk.
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Maybe we should tell FCC to buy all of us out at 4 X assessment and see how they make out with more “diversification “ lol
Most likely end up with Sprott and Pike in the Cayman Islands or on the Panama papers list .
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Originally posted by ajl View PostBeating on this old drum again. Wondering how ag is going to get more efficient with structural inefficiency caused by government regulation and the FCC handing too much money out to Hutt colonies to bid up asset prices and raise the cost of production.
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Originally posted by furrowtickler View PostLol .. true
Always amazes me when non farmers try to tell us what we should be doing ...
I have not farmed for ever , but long enough to hear financial experts , politicians and Ag stiffs try to tel us to diversify into trees, lamas , cattle , ostrich, chicken , hogs , bees , this or that. Like we should have to do 100 things at once just to raise a family while these “experts “ have one job , do *** all but tell us what we should be doing . It actually funny. Not one of those asshats have worked a 18 hr day in their life let alone a 8.5 hr day lol.
Diversify .. really?? Western Canada grows 5 types of Wheat , Canola , Barley, peas , lentils , soybeans, oats , canary seed , black beans , sugar beats, alfalfa, corn , hay ... and are the world leading exporters of several of those ... we should tell them to get get trained for 4 to 5 jobs and be experts at all of them and for less pay ... sorry but *** them .
Oh and be welders, chemists , agrologists, water technicians, mechanics, engineers, soil experts, crop diagnostic experts , carpenters , etc all in one. But demand to be a price taker and be more efficient...... 🙄
Sorry for the rant but “experts†and people in finance need their heads checked once in a while . Most would be broke in one year of actually farming .
What ever happened to the billionaire that was invested into One Earth ? He was going to make er .... lol
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Originally posted by furrowtickler View PostAhh , Sprott .
Could not bet against him ... lol lol . He was going to show us the way and could not fail . Well where is he now ..
Anyway , point is don’t count out the generational farm , and don’t ignore it FCC, most of us are still here for a reason and will be for a long time .
I lost track of Pike, is FCC still paying him to wind down huge corporate farm loss project he managed? He managed to convince FCC to lend them 42 (?) million! Thats pretty awesome achievement, spend it all up and then have the lenders pay you to help recover the money is uber smart. I bet Pike is living well on some warm winter destination.Last edited by hobbyfrmr; Mar 6, 2018, 07:35.
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Originally posted by hobbyfrmr View PostI dont know how One Earth project failed. They had Sprott’s unlimited amount of investors cash to use the best machines, technology and agronomy money can buy. Throw in some income tax advantages and success was theirs.
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Read this on my email from farms.com this morning.....
Regina, Saskatchewan, March 5, 2018 – Canadian farmers need to continue to focus on efficiencies and increased production of commodities in order to remain competitive within a rising tide of production around the world, according to J.P. Gervais, chief agricultural economist for Farm Credit Canada (FCC).
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“Our long-held reputation as a safe and reliable producer of high-quality food opens the door to existing and new export markets, but competitive pressures are mounting,†Gervais said, in releasing the latest outlooks for the agriculture and agri-food sector. “The game is quickly changing and it’s becoming more and more evident that it’s mostly about volume and value added.â€
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Recent years of record-high production have boosted global stocks of many agriculture commodities. But even as the planted acreage of major crops in the United States is expected to be lower than its high in 2012-14, when it averaged almost 257 million acres, improvements in yields allow for continued growth in overall production. That’s why it’s important for Canadian agriculture to invest in innovation that will enable continued growth in productivity.
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Gervais said increasing productivity doesn’t necessarily mean Canadian farmers need to expand their operations.
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“Canadian producers need to find ways of reducing costs while increasing productivity from their existing operations, whether that means increasing the yield per acre or getting more butterfat from a litre of milk,†he said. “Investments in innovation and technology will go a long way in ensuring Canadian agriculture remains productive, competitive and sustainable.â€
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Gervais said changing food preferences are also driving investment decisions. For example, milk production in Canada is trending upward, requiring further investment in processing capacity. Canadian consumers also seek healthy and convenient food products, which is expected to trigger more investments in pre-packaged and easy-to-prepare foods.*
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The food manufacturing sector’s Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is 5.4 per cent higher than at the same time in 2016.*
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“The climate for investment in Canadian food processing is positive, given a Canadian dollar under US$0.80, continued low interest rates and growing demand in the U.S.,†said Gervais, who projects exports of food manufactured products to the U.S. could increase again in 2018, despite the uncertainty surrounding current negotiations of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA).
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He believes this type of investment in Canada’s agriculture and agri-food sector will help keep the industry competitive and, in many cases, a world leader in agriculture innovation and technology.
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“Increasing productivity and adding value to agricultural products is the avenue that will grow Canadian farm revenues,†Gervais said.
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That's great ....increase productivity without rain....gotcha....
Had a talk the other day with a lender and asked how these land prices make sense at today's crop prices.....answer was they don't. ...
Let me break down a few key phrases....
"the climate for investing in canadian food processing is great".....yup sure is with the supercluster**** funding for those involved....raw product prices won't demand a premium.
"..its about volume and value adding"....yup its about buying volumes of garbage durum and blending it with this years 1CWAD and making money....guess who made the money?
"invest in innovation".....could someone else tackle that...since the majority of my grain competes with farmers with no technology or innovation just good ole government support because of the wealth it creates for any other nation...
"Reducing costs"....Laughable considering fuel and fertilizer costs are up due to carbon taxes.....what has ever went down?Last edited by bucket; Mar 6, 2018, 08:46.
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What a dumb article. Get more efficent make more money wow what a revelation. Dont need a defree in exonomics or an mba to figure out that concept. There are lots of producers who can easily make money with todays prices and average yields. Yes 14 dollar canola and 8 dollar wheat is nice but that is why we now have these huge lamd prices which everyone likes to bitch about
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Would anyone like to know my idea of being efficient....
Hauling grain off the combine to the elevator with as few bins as necessary .....that way the grain is in position to move to export....
That's been taken away....so how does a farmer gain back that efficiency?
Buy bins and augers?Last edited by bucket; Mar 6, 2018, 09:00.
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